1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. Dear Guest, Official Club stickers are now available, if you have not already ordered some go grab them now! To order click this Link ----> CLICK ME Go get them whilst stocks last! To dismiss this notice click the cross to the right of this message.

2015 E220 & Millers- Diesel Power Eco Max

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by MESSIAH, Dec 24, 2016.

  1. MESSIAH

    MESSIAH New Member

    Messages:
    15
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2015
    Location:
    South Wales
    Car:
    E220 AMG Line (2015)
    Hi,

    Is it a good idea to start using this with every tankful on a 2015 car?

    Just want to keep the engine mint as car is used everyday and will cover around 25K a year.

    If you suggest something else, please do let me know.

    Thanks.
     
  2. tec

    tec Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    600
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2015
    Location:
    South Midlands UK
    Car:
    CLK320 CDi SPORT V6
    The manufacturers always tell you to never use any additives.

    I would not bother with additives on a car under warranty.
     
  3. OP
    OP
    MESSIAH

    MESSIAH New Member

    Messages:
    15
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2015
    Location:
    South Wales
    Car:
    E220 AMG Line (2015)
    Good point.

    So when warranty ends. Is it a good to do so then? Reading on here some people swear by these additive products but most mention it's better to use as prevention rather than a cure.

    Maybe it's better to just leave it alone and stick to regular servicing etc.
     
  4. grober

    grober Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    22,296
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2003
    Location:
    Perth, Scotland
    Car:
    W204 C200CDI Estate
    If you wish to run your car on cooking diesel as opposed to premium it will raise the cetane rating to premium diesel levels. Certainly quietens my OM651 a bit when you push it. :dk:
    Diesel Fuel Cetane Rating - What Is Cetane?
     
  5. tec

    tec Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    600
    Joined:
    Mar 31, 2015
    Location:
    South Midlands UK
    Car:
    CLK320 CDi SPORT V6
    I don't think there has ever been any scientific proof that additives actually work, but the manufacturers over the years have made us believe,
    that adding chemicals in your fuel or oil can repair or make your engine better without the need of an expensive mechanic and replacement parts.
     
  6. wu56Shoozz

    wu56Shoozz Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    590
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2016
    Location:
    You'll need a passport to get over the Wall..
    Car:
    MB Vito 111CDi / W203 C Class Saloon 320CDi Avantgarde
    I've used the two Diesel Rhino & Millers Diesel and I've found both to be pretty good on the cleaning side of things but not on performance i.e BHP My C320CDi was pretty lumpy when I got it, and now after using the Millers (Easiest to hand) is as smooth as.. I guess because mine had only done 8k between MOT's it was all short hops.. but now it appears to be better and mpg is up marginally...1-2 mpg. But again for the naysayers etc Its only MY opinion..

    On the Millers - if you look on the Ford ST forums on the 220Cdi Diesels it developed bad starting many used the above and found that after a couple of tankfuls it had cleared the bad starting and removed "varnishing" of the camshaft sensor.. but again its only what they say or found....
     
  7. wu56Shoozz

    wu56Shoozz Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    590
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2016
    Location:
    You'll need a passport to get over the Wall..
    Car:
    MB Vito 111CDi / W203 C Class Saloon 320CDi Avantgarde
    I had this done on another vehicle with a Merc engine and the difference in performance all round was very good.. its a lot more costlier but it was very good, the diesel oil stays cleaner for longer ...

    https://www.terraclean.co.uk/how-terraclean-works

    It was a Jeep 2.7CRD with the Sprinter engine in it.. it had FSH and 130k on the clock. Noticeably the engine was quieter, its pick was quicker and it pulled smoother.. not as rough for a 5 pot...
     
  8. The Polisher

    The Polisher Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    161
    Joined:
    Dec 28, 2012
    Location:
    Redditch
    Car:
    E220CDI Estate
    I wouldn't bother.

    My E220Cdi is now at 135k, 3 years old. I run it on standard cheap tesco diesel, serviced on time at main dealers.

    It runs as good, if not better than the day I got it.

    I dont see any need for additives, running mine for 40k a year for over 3 years now without issues at all.

    Its still quiet, quick and does 58mpg on a run. Sounds better than my mates 12 month old 10k BMW 320d too!
     
  9. mbenz1

    mbenz1 Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    938
    Joined:
    Jul 27, 2010
    Car:
    '05 C220 CDI Avantgarde SE
    I'd personally use Shell V-Power or BP Ultimate Diesel every 3 months or so (put in a full tank) as this will keep the internals clean and in good condition. Also, its a good idea to stick to good fuel stations like Shell or BP as their fuels tend to be better quality I think.

    Rest, there is not much more that can be done to keep engines in optimal working order as long as they are serviced routinely with the correct people. If something is going to happen, it'll happen no matter how hard we try to avoid/prevent ;)

    Sent from my GT-I9505 using MBClub UK
     
  10. Avnt

    Avnt Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    212
    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2015
    Car:
    C350cdi sport
    I use the millers in my 350cdi and i find it does sound quieter than it was before i used it. I buy it in 5litres at a time from opie oils


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
     
  11. sc3992

    sc3992 Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    106
    Joined:
    Sep 8, 2014
    Additives to oil or fuel have been proven time after time to do nothing for an engine, its your driving style that matters.

    Cars used on constant short journeys will always prove to be more "gummed" up than those used consistently on longer journeys......

    This is like the K & N filter question where people ask if they are worth fitting.....

    The answer to both is that they do nothing, except make people waste money on these pointless products......
     
  12. grober

    grober Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    22,296
    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2003
    Location:
    Perth, Scotland
    Car:
    W204 C200CDI Estate
    Interesting you should say that--- its as if the diesel that comes out of the pumps is somehow drawn from a sacred well of diesel purity instead of being a complex mixture of fuel and additives from the fuel supplier. In the case of cetane enhancers the operative additive is 2 EHN --ethyl hexyl nitrate which is one of the ingredients of Millers diesel ecomax. So basically Millers are just boosting the additive content [ already there] from the fuel manufacturer. I would not recommend using it with the idea of increased fuel mileage but as a fuel enhancer raising supermarket fuel up to premium diesel performance in terms of cetane rating and keeping your fuel system clean. For those who want to DIY their cetane rating you can buy 2EHN on t'internet and brew your own fuel.
    2-EHN Highest quality 99% pure 2-Ethyl-Hexyl Nitrate Cetane Booster 5 Litres | eBay
    Just be careful its nasty stuff to handle without the right dispensing equipment and protective gear.
    [​IMG]
     
  13. OP
    OP
    MESSIAH

    MESSIAH New Member

    Messages:
    15
    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2015
    Location:
    South Wales
    Car:
    E220 AMG Line (2015)
    Great discussion guys, thanks for all the replies.
     
  14. a111r

    a111r Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    1,045
    Joined:
    Aug 11, 2008
    Location:
    east london
    Car:
    S123 240TD, S210 320cdi.
    I buy this stuff (for bio). It works out about 1p a litre to DIY premium derv.
     
  15. ph47mf

    ph47mf Hardcore MB Enthusiast

    Messages:
    162
    Joined:
    Sep 10, 2016
    Location:
    Midlands
    Car:
    W212 E220D
    Well I have tried normal supermarket fuel, BP Ultimate, Shell diesel nitro, and sometimes with Redex, did I notice anything? yes, the fuel consumption gets worse. From 36mpg to 28mpg brim to brim. That's it.

    I will probably use the more expensive stuff every few months for its cleaning properties but I wouldn't use it every tank thinking I will get a better engine response or mpg.
     

Share This Page