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- W210 E280 x2, w211 E55, W212 E63 biturbo, S204 C180K
I believe one member (Daveentry) got just over 700bhp from a tuning box fitted to his biturbo E63 at MSL
Adjustable tuning box, rear resonator taken out and a balance pipe fitted, but apart from that it's standard.
Just short of 600bhp at the rear wheels, just over 700 (according to Acid's conservative calculations) at the flywheel.
I'd leave the filters initially, and have a chat with Acid at MSL. I've been in conversation recently about fitting Weistec front pipes (no down-pipes on these as such), though still undecided at the moment. After that, bigger turbos is the next step but I think I'll miss on that one. Robin (rsk21 I think) with the white CLS wagon was getting similar results, though only after MSL fitted the proper tuning box.
Just short of 600bhp at the rear wheels, just over 700 (according to Acid's conservative calculations) at the flywheel.
I'd leave the filters initially, and have a chat with Acid at MSL. I've been in conversation recently about fitting Weistec front pipes (no down-pipes on these as such), though still undecided at the moment. After that, bigger turbos is the next step but I think I'll miss on that one. Robin (rsk21 I think) with the white CLS wagon was getting similar results, though only after MSL fitted the proper tuning box.
SavMan
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We use the Rado downpipes they are a straight fit for the E63 and sound amazing we also have several options on mapping one of which may well be one of the most undetectable on the market.
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We use the Rado downpipes they are a straight fit for the E63 and sound amazing we also have several options on mapping one of which may well be one of the most undetectable on the market.
I think those may have been mentioned to me Paul. It was a telephone conversation with Acid a while ago but late and I was probably tired. Are these the ones with a lot less restriction than the standard ones?
Incidentally, when I mentioned no downpipes earlier, I meant more like in the term of headers on the N/A engines. These are from the turbo back I believe?
SavMan
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They are for the Biturbo's you have with sports cats and catless, we have only fitted the sports cats one's but still seen gains and sound the perfect mix. Not to in your face but have a nice bark when you open them up. These one's bolt onto the turbo downpipe so very easy fit only take around an hour and come with brand new MB exhaust gaskets, clamps the whole lot.
You can get further gains by changing the smaller turbo downpipes but it can be quite a job labour wise you may as well go the whole hog and pull the engine and swap the turbo's at the same time
Why not?
MB are happy with honouring the warranty on the car with exhaust modifications (I asked them about this when it had it's first service) though I would think they may have something to say about engine mods.
The beauty of the little box I have fitted is that it can be disconnected if necessary with no noticeable changes, putting the car back to standard, so any bigger mods will have to wait "just in case"
rsk21
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SavMan@EC said:They are for the Biturbo's you have with sports cats and catless, we have only fitted the sports cats one's but still seen gains and sound the perfect mix. Not to in your face but have a nice bark when you open them up. These one's bolt onto the turbo downpipe so very easy fit only take around an hour and come with brand new MB exhaust gaskets, clamps the whole lot. You can get further gains by changing the smaller turbo downpipes but it can be quite a job labour wise you may as well go the whole hog and pull the engine and swap the turbo's at the same time
They are the ones that I and ACEJ have. We're both very happy with them
They are the ones that I and ACEJ have. We're both very happy with them
They both sound bloody great
Bumping this as I've just had a phone call from a gentleman in Birmingham about exhausts for my car.
I'm very undecided about this. It's not a cheap mod, and no-one seems to know exactly what the benefits will be as there are none recorded in Europe apparently.
It wouldn't just be the pipes as posted by Paul above, which a couple of guys on here already have, but the awkward short ones from the turbo back as well. Not Rado ones either, but Weistec have been suggested.
My issue is that I already have 700+bhp and we don't know what the gains will be with this set-up. Having said that though, just looking at the pictures on the Weistec site you can see that AMG seem to have compromised on the design of these small pipes, so there must be something to be had.
Is it worth it do we think? Another problem is when is enough with these things?
I'm very undecided about this. It's not a cheap mod, and no-one seems to know exactly what the benefits will be as there are none recorded in Europe apparently.
It wouldn't just be the pipes as posted by Paul above, which a couple of guys on here already have, but the awkward short ones from the turbo back as well. Not Rado ones either, but Weistec have been suggested.
My issue is that I already have 700+bhp and we don't know what the gains will be with this set-up. Having said that though, just looking at the pictures on the Weistec site you can see that AMG seem to have compromised on the design of these small pipes, so there must be something to be had.
Is it worth it do we think? Another problem is when is enough with these things?
We use the Rado downpipes they are a straight fit for the E63 and sound amazing we also have several options on mapping one of which may well be one of the most undetectable on the market.
Bang a spiderboot in the ecu and boom, flash it back to standard and modify it through the OBD port
ACID
MB Enthusiast
maybe up to 750bhp with these bad boys
If they are less restrictive and / or wider bore then you will always have the potential to create more power. Provided there is more being sucked in then improving and speeding up how exhaust gases are removed can only be a benefit...
Jules
Jules
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No problem at all Mike. Not really doing the miles as you know, but managed to get a total of 9,250 on it up to now, with c4k at 700bhp+ and it's never missed a beat. Smooth and very torquey.
Now to get the front pipes sorted...
rsk21
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doughboy said:
10k miles on mine with same box as Dave
No issues with clutch whatsoever
