Kids - are we wrecking their lives?

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Thousands of pounds have been allocated to build an “Urban Sports Park” for our local community. This will basically be a skate park with a few extra bits and pieces added around it. This has come about following an impressive campaign by a group of youngsters who gathered 700 signatures in favour of the proposal. Our local councillor said “We do have very little in the area for young people. There are a lot of parks for younger children in the area, but not so much for children of this age [8 – 15].” She went on to say that “Similar projects in other areas have proved to be successful. They help keep children off street corners, and research has also shown children who take part in activities like this are more likely to go to school.”

All this sounds reasonable and I hope that it is indeed successful. But my question is are we pampering kids too much these days to their own detriment? All the time we hear that all the troubles in our country are because there’s nothing for kids to do. The riots of a year ago were blamed on this. Yet there appears to be so much more for children to do now than there ever has been.

Way back in the fifties when I was a young lad in West London we had virtually no TV, no computers and no games consoles. Within a 30 minute walk we only had one playground, which consisted of two swings, a slide and a roundabout. But for Londoners we were lucky to have a couple of good big parks to run around in and a grass slope to tumble down. The River Brent provided hours of fun skimming stones or catching newts. Our imaginations kept us occupied and our stealth ensured we weren’t in trouble too often!

Now kids seem to have every conceivable thing to keep them entertained. They have everything but still we’re told that they’re bored because there’s nothing for them to do. All the kids round here appear to be hooked on electronic entertainment almost from birth. The very youngest are plonked in front of TV for hours every day within a few months of being born, and then by the age of 2 or 3 they’re playing with mum’s iPhone or their own Nintendo at every opportunity. With entertainment spoon fed to them during every waking hour they don’t have to think about being creative. So when they get a bit older and they’re bored with exercising their thumbs, or mum says they must go out and play with their friends, they’re at a total loss. So all they can do is hang around on street corners! It’s all our fault for giving them everything isn’t it?

This forum has a good range of members from different backgrounds, so I’d be interested to know what everyone’s opinions are on this.
 
Your experiences of growing up as a child in the 1950's can't really be compared to the experiences, and more importantly, the expectations of today's children and those of their parents.
 
They have so many distorted ideas of what being normal is thrust upon them by the media that they think everybody lives in a mansion with a swimming pool.
Take MTV which has show called 'Cribs' which has 'celebrities' boasting about their wealth and lifestyle. Kids watch it and think its normal.
 
Your experiences of growing up as a child in the 1950's can't really be compared to the experiences, and more importantly, the expectations of today's children and those of their parents.
Why not? I made the comparison as evidence that perhaps our expectations now may be harmful.
 
Why not? I made the comparison as evidence that perhaps our expectations now may be harmful.

Some of our contemporary expectations may well be harmful but the children and parents of today simply wouldn't accept the activities, schooling and lifestyle that you experienced.
 
As a kid in the 1950's also, I remember there was trouble from the youth, broken greenhouse glass, tresspassing on building sites, minor theft from paper shops, autumn time regular 'scrumping' from orchards and even gardens.

Differences today are I think, there are more kids than their were then, schooling and home life are less regimented/stable, kids routinely went to work at 15-where are the jobs for kids today? kids are not scared of the police-I was, drug culture has escalated youth crime.
 
Many are heading for a large dose of reality as life will not live up to the distorted image the media portrays to them.

Many expect to be running the business within a few years of joining, many certainly think they will be paid lots of money (for remarkably little effort).

Our girl is about to embark upon her GCSE's so this autumn I plan to take her to Oxford Uni and Cambridge and then to a few of our lesser know instituions of higher learning. I will let her see the differences for herself. I will explain to her, once, I will support her throughout her University days and then the gravy train stops. If she has the brains I believe she does I hope it will inspire her to make a few correct choices in life now to improve her lot in the future.
 
They will also come to realise how they have been betrayed by the present government (and the others before) and how they are expected to pick up a huge national debt that they did not run up. I am sure they will thank us for that.
 
Aren't the electronic toys an attempt at compensating them for depriving them of an outdoor life due to the paranoia of child abduction?
As a kid, I roamed all over and spoke to whoever I chose. It is partly how I became interested in cars - talking to complete strangers fixing theirs at the road side. The only rule I had to obey was never go anywhere with anyone and report back if ever I was asked to get in a car or enter a house. Simple.
I had a brilliant childhood - I pity kids who aren't permitted the same.
 
This forum has a good range of members from different backgrounds, so I’d be interested to know what everyone’s opinions are on this.

It's better that they drink lager, smoke skunk and suck each other off down the skate park, than on street corners and outside your local Lidl, where old people could be upset by their youthful antics.
 
. The River Brent provided hours of fun skimming stones or catching newts. Our imaginations kept us occupied and our stealth ensured we weren’t in trouble too often!

Pitshanger park by any chance? if so spent many,many hours there as a youngster.
 
When my daughters went to Germany on exchange trips, the kids there hang out in what sound like young versions of social clubs. Not really youth clubs, as there was nothing going on there, they just sat around and smoked and drank (no pressure, some did, some didn't).

The German kids were most dismayed when they came over here and we just don't have anything similar. It's really hard to entertain 15yr old visitors for a couple of weeks!
 
I'm not far from turning 31, and I was in the generation that started with the Gameboy, Gamegear etc when I was a pre teen.

Because of the expensive nature of them (especially games) and the lack of internet connectivity on devices back then, it was easy to get bored of them and still go out and play. Hell, even by the time I was 21 there was no real myspace/facebook to speak of, and dialup was still the order of the day for most people.

These days children are brought up in a world where they don't have to go out to socialise - they can log onto a phone or laptop (which are so cheap you can get them free in many cases), and they don't miss a thing, all while watching their favourite TV show. Now not so long ago before the iPhone era, that meant they barely went out - however now they have access on their phones, they can be out and about while facebooking etc.

Now is the perfect time to get kids back into being outside and having the childhood they should in parks, events, etc etc.
 
. The River Brent provided hours of fun skimming stones or catching newts. Our imaginations kept us occupied and our stealth ensured we weren’t in trouble too often!

Pitshanger park by any chance? if so spent many,many hours there as a youngster.
No, a little further upstream at Brent Lodge Park (Bunny Park to the locals)
 

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