Pensioner gets £85,000+ payout after Porsche dealer sold ‘his’ car

[fab1975]

Pensioner gets £85,000+ payout after Porsche dealer sold ?his? car

Justice has been done... eventually

 

[Deleted member 37751]

States pensioner in the article then says this: "Mr Hughes, the owner of a garage and classic car restoration centre specialising in Porsches" What's his age/status got to do with it?

 

[fab1975]

States pensioner in the article then says this: "Mr Hughes, the owner of a garage and classic car restoration centre specialising in Porsches" What's his age/status got to do with it?

Right said.. I guess that from a DT perspective putting "pensioner" and "Porsche" in the same sentence makes a better headline than "millionaire" + "Porsche"

 

[reason42]

States pensioner in the article then says this: "Mr Hughes, the owner of a garage and classic car restoration centre specialising in Porsches" What's his age/status got to do with it?

Click bait. Page views means advertising revenue.

 

[Red C220]

Interesting precedent. Porsche have a history of this kind of behaviour, I imagine we'll see a few more cases as a result of this.

I've no doubt Piston Heads is buzzing on this information.

 

[Deleted member 6183]

States pensioner in the article then says this: "Mr Hughes, the owner of a garage and classic car restoration centre specialising in Porsches" What's his age/status got to do with it?

I thought the same initially, I suppose that he could be entitled to a pension and even claiming against one without giving up work.

The whole article seems a bit hysterical to me.

 

[def90cars]

At 67 he is lucky to be a pensioner... I have to wait to 68.

 

[markjay]

So it was down to whether the promise of being 'first in line' was a legally binding contract or not.... ?

 

[def90cars]

I think Bolton probably sold it to someone who wnted the car rather than a speculator...

If you wanted the car, the settlement would be a car, not the lost investment.

 

[Red C220]

I think Bolton probably sold it to someone who wnted the car rather than a speculator...

If you wanted the car, the settlement would be a car, not the lost investment.

Unless the car is very limited production and there are no more - which is what happened here.

Seeing as the plaintiff was a Porsche specialist he looks like a collector to me anyway.

 

[tali]

You would think then that Porsche sold it to a buyer who paid over the odds - but there is no record of this - and the courts could have demanded to see it.Another day,another set of Judges would have decided in favour of Porsche.Lottery at its most arbitary

 

[renault12ts]

The first to pay the deposit to hold a car should it become available should have received said car.

If you don't agree with this , then what's to stop Porsche (or others ) collecting many deposits from potential purchasers, 9 out of 10 of whom have no chance of getting what they think they have reserved...and Porsche earning the interest before returning the deposits.

 

[brucemillar]

The first to pay the deposit to hold a car should it become available should have received said car.

If you don't agree with this , then what's to stop Porsche (or others ) collecting many deposits from potential purchasers, 9 out of 10 of whom have no chance of getting what they think they have reserved...and Porsche earning the interest before returning the deposits.

Correct.

 

[gl boy]

First to hand over the deposit and deal should of got it !! If this Was mr Hughes then Porsche Bolton are totally at fault IMO ,,, dad had this many years ago with a lagonda !!!! But never persuade court ,,

 

[Little Lofty]

I'm no.8 on the waiting list at my Porsche dealer for a Macan GTS. I've often wondered if the dealers honour the list, obviously not

 

[John Jones Jr]

There's no doubt in my mind that the car was sold to someone willing to pay more.

Delighted the old boy got justice but what is worrying is that he had to take the case to a Court of Appeal.

 

[Mrhanky]

There's no doubt in my mind that the car was sold to someone willing to pay more.

Delighted the old boy got justice but what is worrying is that he had to take the case to a Court of Appeal.

Exactly, it was no doubt a case of who was prepared to grease the palm the hardest.

I'm just glad he got is victory.

 

[TheFoX]

It does make me wonder how many times people have negotiated, paid a deposit, then got told a 'mistake' had been made, and had received a refund.

Forget about the fact that the fellow is a pensioner or spent £50,000 on legal fees, there is a principle here that should be set in law. If you hand over a part payment for goods or services, you should expect that part payment to secure the goods or services, and the only reason you should get your deposit back is if both sides agree to a refund for whatever reason. To discover that the goods or services have been sold to another party after you have made payment should be fraud.

If you don't wish to sell to an individual, you should not take a deposit.

To be honest, if I had seen a nice example of a CLS in a showroom, bartered the price down, offered a £1000 deposit, then got told later that someone else had come in and offered more and the dealer had accepted, I would be fuming. The idea of paying a deposit is to secure what you are buying, otherwise why would any of us part with cash prior to completing the transaction?

 

[flat6buster]

It does make me wonder how many times people have negotiated, paid a deposit, then got told a 'mistake' had been made, and had received a refund.

Forget about the fact that the fellow is a pensioner or spent £50,000 on legal fees, there is a principle here that should be set in law. If you hand over a part payment for goods or services, you should expect that part payment to secure the goods or services, and the only reason you should get your deposit back is if both sides agree to a refund for whatever reason. To discover that the goods or services have been sold to another party after you have made payment should be fraud.

If you don't wish to sell to an individual, you should not take a deposit.

To be honest, if I had seen a nice example of a CLS in a showroom, bartered the price down, offered a £1000 deposit, then got told later that someone else had come in and offered more and the dealer had accepted, I would be fuming. The idea of paying a deposit is to secure what you are buying, otherwise why would any of us part with cash prior to completing the transaction?

Exactly, that is why cry babies on forums who whinge that a dealer won't return a deposit on a car they've changed their mind about, really get on my nipples.

Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.

Please God save me from another post: well I really liked the car, put down a five hundred quid deposit, saw one cheaper elsewhere and the nasty dealer won't refund my deposit. Good. Grow up.

Sorry that has obviously been brewing. Serenity now. Serenity now. Serenity now.

 

[Red C220]

As far as I know since the recent consumer law change a dealer cannot refuse to return a deposit for a change of mind.

In fact I think there's very little legal right at all for them to hang to a deposit for any reason.