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W204 C63 steering wheel off centre..

Discussion in 'AMG Lounge' started by V8andTurbos, May 13, 2017.

  1. V8andTurbos

    V8andTurbos Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    How many owners suffer from the same issues? I've had my car aligned various times on 4 wheel geometry machines. Some attempts successful and others not so. I know this issue has been covered but I'd like hear from other owners?

    My cars was recently aligned on a 4 wheel John bean machine and after 2 attempts the steering wheel is sitting off centre. If I hold the wheel dead centre it drifts off to the left and if I hold it slightly off to the left it drives straight. Is this a common issues with the 204 chassis? I know the car pulling to the left is common due to the camber of U.K. Roads but surely the steering wheel should sit straight after alignment? I've used this garage before and they got the steering wheel straight around 1 month ago..
     
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    V8andTurbos Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Before anyone mentions WIM they are around 7 hours drive from me unfortunately. Car is running stock 19" wheels and stock suspension too..
     
  3. markjay

    markjay Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Yes. Sorry can't help... WIM sorted mine :thumb:

    Tony Bones from WIM is sometimes online here and can offer advise.
     
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    V8andTurbos Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Was your issue steering wheel sitting off centre, pulling or most likely both?

    As mentioned my car has been sorted in the past but the most recent setup is off.. sadly WIM is too far
     
  5. keejoonc

    keejoonc Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    No issues with mine. Drives dead straight

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  6. Felstmiester

    Felstmiester Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    I think it can depend a lot on the camber of the road. It's a pet hate of mine getting in a car and the steering wheel being off. I think with the low profile of the tyres on the c63 it can be amplified if the road is a little off camber. Just my thoughts.
     
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    Tech says it's within tolerances and drives straight. Granted on some roads it does but for the most part it's off centre.. anyone have any post alignment spec sheets?
     
  8. MisterMicawber

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    My W203 was the same for quite a while until I got it done on a Hunter machine. For a long time I tried to persuade myself that the problem was the road camber but a correct alignment proved me wrong. Most people will know instinctively if the alignment is wrong. You also said your garage managed to get it right previously. It's a pain to keep going back to them, I know. But in your later post you said the technician said it was all to spec. That may be so, but was the steering wheel straight when they started? Surely if the steering wheel is off centre before the adjustments, it'll be off-centre when the adjustments are finished.

    I've mentioned this place in other posts as they did such a good job using a Hunter machine. I've always been recommended to look for Hunter machines but I have no idea whether they're better than John Bean, or whether they're both much the same. Here's a discussion on their relative merits.
     
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    When the steering wheel is off centre the only option other than taking the wheel off is adjusting both track rod ends.
    On my old diesel people carrier I fitted new track rods ends, bottom ball joints and top mounts so decided to have the tracking checked.
    After leaving the garage the wheel was pointing to 11 o'clock.
    I should really have taken it back but had no confidence they would sort it properly.
    So after careful consideration I decided which track rod end needed shortening and which needed lengthening, adjusted them both equally (1 turn each at a time)
    Wheel now dead straight and no pulling to either side.
     
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    I'll return on Monday and ask them to re do it. Very frustrating as I know the car is spot on and the only thing letting it down is the off centre wheel.
     
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    No issues with mine bang in middle and drives straight.......❤️ She's a beautiful thing...
     
  12. Triangle

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    I have just picked up a 2013 car. On the test drive I noticed that the steering pulled to the left on an even road camber. I asked the dealer to get the alignment checked before I picked it up. Anyway, the alignment was checked OK but the car needed New front tyres which were fitted. When I drove the car on new tyres, she tracked much better but I questioned the uneven tyre wear that necessitated new tyres and was not convinced with the answer I got. So, I booked it in with a local alignment specialist for another check. Lo and behold the right from toe in was way out. It is now tracking perfectly. The next day I checked the tyre pressures and all 4 were low by about 4-6 psi. Setting them to the recommended 38/41 actually improved the ride and reduced tyre noise.
    The moral of the story is - not all wheel alignment company's or their machines are equal AND check you tyre pressures first.
    A good aligned will be able to align your car or identify any suspension damage that could be a cause. Mine also found a cracked alloy which the main dealer service and MOT had missed - I am now getting a new OEM wheel paid for by the dealer. If you are in the Bournemouth area, I recommend Mike Stokes Motorsport.


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