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  1. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    If they didn’t then surely you would be in the same position as if they were summer tyres, i.e. sliding.
  2. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    It’s the pivoting motion (think direction and distance covered going around the circumference of a circle compared to the centre) and the fact that some of the sideways force will be taken up by the rear tyres that’s making me think there’s more too it. And I’m sorry, if you’re suggesting you...
  3. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    The more I think about Doodles explanation the less convinced I am. I can’t see how there is a direct relation from the amount of sideway energy transferred from the back to the front (with winter tears). I can see how some of the energy will transfer, making understeer worse but not the full...
  4. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    I guess you stop. Not as quickly as with 4 winters but probably quicker than with 4 summers.
  5. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    Yeah things have changed. Insurance wouldn’t be an issue for me or many others. There are still some who are funny about being notified but this is becoming the minority.
  6. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    Doodle. So to paraphrase. More sideways force is placed on the fronts as the rears can’t share the load, therefore INCREASING understeer. That makes sense and was what I was after all along. Thank you.
  7. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    3 pages and nothing but opinions. It is not difficult to understand why a car understeers or oversteers so we dont need a physics lesson. Just a basic explanation to show that yours is the correct opinion and that a car would be worse off for having winters fitted to the rear would be good.
  8. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    While this is great for showing us what we already know about handling characteristics depending on whether better or worse tyres are placed to the from or rear, it does not offer any insight, that I could see, that relates to the original question. The main question is whether putting better...
  9. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    ...which shows that it doesn't perform as well as 4 winter tyres (we all knew that). If they had sent round the Passat with 4 summer tyres then the video would have been worth watching. Maybe the 4 summer tyres fared worse still, maybe some oversteer? Maybe the summers were so bad that the...
  10. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    This is what I hear...opinions.
  11. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    Those videos are completely pointless. No comparison is made to having 4 summer tyres or having rear winters on a front wheel drive car. I wonder why? Is a front wheel drive car more likely to understeer with grippier rears? This is the main question to be asking. If it doesn’t then you gain a...
  12. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    That’s what I was hoping for as there is no explanation I can find, or demonstration where it shows how a front wheel drive car handles with rear winters on.
  13. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    As above. Keep oversteer at bay.
  14. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    Would a car understeer more if there is more grip on the rear? Would 2 winters on the rear not just understeer as much as it would with summer tyres anyway but keep oversteer in check?
  15. MB-BTurbo

    Two winter tyres better than no winter tyres?

    Ive watched many videos and read many comments suggesting that you should always fit 4 winter tyres rather than 2 to the rear but what about comparing it to having 4 summer tyres? Surely 2 winter tyres on the rear is better than 4 summer tyres?
  16. MB-BTurbo

    Reducing speed ratings?

    They do a 205 55 16 91H
  17. MB-BTurbo

    Reducing speed ratings?

    So I phoned the insurance company...may as well not have bothered, lol. She had no idea what speed ratings or a load index was. She then proceeded to read a list of what they would consider to be tyre modifications. Are they wider? Are they flared (no idea what that means)? Are they winged (no...
  18. MB-BTurbo

    UK number plates... Look naff!

    To be honest, I wouldn't worry about it too much. The rust I had on the smooth seams would have taken quite a few years before becoming apparent on any obvious places. I only noticed it because I went looking for it. My boot panel was the old wrinkle seam and rusted everywhere. I cut and filled...
  19. MB-BTurbo

    UK number plates... Look naff!

    What made it worse was that the rear drivers side started to rust with the replacement new smooth seam. I had to cut it back and seal it. The door would have been 2 years old! I want to enjoy German made cars but they do seem to fall behind the Japanese manufacturers for build quality unfortunately.
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