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Everyone? who is being inaccurate now? Grow up. I see the argument is still trundling on............................my work here is done :D hook line and sinker.

Not at all and I fail to understand once you have answered my question the need for the last line that seems to be attempting to belittle me. Forums are a strange place, would you say that last line down the pub if you were having an argument?

No..................................4, its great that you can stop listening to people when you don't like their opinions! For the first time an opinion can be wrong...................or at least properly ignored ;)

Yep seen it, post 71 explains nothing, you have obviously read my post incorrectly and your ego won't let you admit it. Sad.

Ok the first part says a whole country thought that the Nazi's idea was correct, it obviously wasn't so the thoughts of the majority cannot be an accurate way to judge right thinkig. There are many examples were the majority thought things were right and they were not, slavery for example...

How about showing me were I said that the Nazi's were right thinking or be a man and admit you couldn't be ****d to read the post properly before posting a reply? and apologise.

At least read my posts if you are going to answer them! I was using the Nazi theme to suggest that a whole country can be wrong, so the majority cannot be used as a way to describe right thinking. Please quote the part of my post that suggested the Nazi's were correct. An apology for your...

I disagree there are many unconventional thinkers that are clearly right thinking, I don't see a link between the two descriptions myself. And by the way..............................who decides if the thinking is "Right"? To take on the Nazi theme, a whole country thought that was right at...

Explain "Irresponsible" in the context of what you are saying please?

John its all in the interpretation, and as you have shown you can interpret even the dictionary in different ways depending on your standpoint. We may not always agree but thats not to say you cannot enjoy the debate. Cheers

Now you are talking.

Thats your prerogative but it does seem that you are not willing to back up statements that you are making with anything more than one liners. If your ability to ignore is as good as it is to walk away then I am sure we will continue to debate this further :D

Would that have been ok with you? if so is that because it was a long time ago? or did no one suffer in that war? Confused now again.....................................

Trouble is according to the most accurate stats available some 4 million of us like it as well! John I know you love accuracy! I don't think he was torturing these Adults by the dictionary definition: 1 [U] the act of causing great physical or mental pain in order to persuade someone to do...

But was it a Nazi one? the judge thinks not that is the key point you are ignoring..................the basis of most BDSM situations invlove someone being restrained for a made up misdead and punished, it must kind of lose the point without it! You are not doing a very good job of "Leaving it...

As I explained I understood when you expanded on it but I did not see the relevance. You clearly stated that you were comparing the legal position in France and Germany to the UK, you also eluded to some vague "political" and "backdrop" issues that were open to the readers interpretation. I...

Good points John, you can't help but draw comparisons to the Mclaren case. He was obviously playing out a prisoner drama of some sort I agree, but to what degree that this is acceptable is wide open for debate especially when its supposed to be behind closed doors. Some people will find it...

Anyway on a lighter note, Liked these comments following this story: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7504758.stm Frankly, it scares me to know what people will do in the name of recreation. How can physical aggression, bleeding wounds, broken bones, dirt, humiliation, orchestrated and...

Exactly my point, however your unwillingness to expand on it intrigues me.

Just reading an interesting spin off article from the MM case, it seems he is not alone................................. From BBC news: Nobody knows how many people are involved in the "scene": a loose grouping of people across the country who enjoy an unorthodox - and under current laws...