124 300te 4Matic

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  1. brucemillar

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    The front lower ball joints need replacing on my 124 4Matic.

    I suspect that other bushes will also be shot.

    Q. Is it better to replace the entire arms - assuming they can be bought complete with ball joints.

    Is this a job for an Indie or a DIY.

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    Not a DIY job. They need to be pressed out. Even with a hydraulic press they can be very tight.

    I have the tooling for this as a regular press can't to it due to the shape of the arm.

    Are the arm bushes ok? They will probably be perished if they are original.
     
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    You may find it difficult to find entire replacement arms as I think they may be different from the standard arms. Possibly easier to refurb the originals with new inner bushes and outer ball joints if they are in reasonable nick.
     
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    Many thanks. I have been quoted £90 each just for the ball joints. Not really done any searching as the car is currently on SORN. I want back on the road the winter. Is £90 a good price?

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    That's about the correct price for the ball joints alone. They are special bolt on ones

    A1243330727 LEFT A1243330827 RIGHT

    The arms are different also I think. There will be inner bushing kits - but they won't be cheap would be my bet. Chassis will be 124.290 best to check with the MB parts counter as there was a change
     
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    Ha ha!!

    I was so wrong. Didn't realise they were bolt on. I have only ever seen a couple of 4matic 124's.

    Ignore my last post!!!
     
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    Olly, Graeme. I am guessing that this still not DIY due to the spring compression?
     
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    I would think without the spring compressor it would be a dangerous job.
     
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    OK. That tells me what I needed to know. Many thanks for the fast responses and great info.
     
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    Why take the spring out?
     
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    If I do not have to remove the spring then I am thinking it is DIY. I thought from the other posts I had to remove the spring?

    Looks like I could jack it and remove the ball joint bolts? Or would the spring still be under to much load?
     
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    Hello, I have a 1990 w124 300td 4matic, I need to replace the shock absorbers. I use my car on back roads and am looking for a harder shock then the original. If I can't find it the original will have to do. Also the 4matic does not come on when the back wheel spins...any idea why? Thanks.
     
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    Most 4 matics have a service lever marked test in the engine compartment which disables the 4WD system. Its there for diagnostic purposes. Unfortunately these early cars had major problems with the transfer gearbox and many owners rather than repair the box simply ran their cars with the 4WD system disabled. I suspect this is the position with your car. I wouldn't change the shocker rating as its bump/rebound/travel characteristics will be matched to the unique front springs. I suspect standard new shockers will firm things up nicely.
     
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