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1993 S500 - thinks it's a kangaroo

kps70

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Cheltenham
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MB S500 W140, VW411LE, VWPassatTDi, VWGolfMkI, VWType2
Hi,
my s500 has a few problems and I need some pointers to get me started.
1. Starts fine from cold/hot but tickover is quite erratic - rising, falling, steady for a bit then dropping, rising in a kind of random fashion. Some days it's worse than others.
2. If I drive it for a couple of miles, stop it then try to start after a couple of minutes, the tickover is really bad (very low revs but still some 'searching' up and down of the revs. When I put it into gear, it almost kangaroos (happens in reverse too) and needs a firm push on the brakes to stop it. For a few miles it might stall at any time but when pulling off from a junction it's usually at its worst as it lets me get out into the road before stalling (dangerous!)
3. When pulling up slowly to a roundabout or junction (hot or cold) the car doesn't want to stop. It feels like there is a slight surge of unwanted power, like the above kangarooing almost.
4. On the motorway, it pulls quite well, but there is definitely some sort of mild misfire/lumpiness as it is not its usual smooth self.
I'm thinking that these problems are all related to incorrect signals getting to (or from) the ECU therefore wrong air/fuel mixture/revs at low/zero speeds.
The car is running on lpg but the problem is identical on fuel and gas, so an electrical issue - but what could it be?

Could anyone give me a list to check through?! :confused:
Thanks
Kieron
 
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I have just changed the air mass meter (today), but it has not made any difference. What should I check next?
Kieron
 
Was it for a brand new item?

Check for vacuum leaks.
 
It was a second hand one from Carl at w140 spares.
Can you be a bit more specific? Sorry!
 
Have you checked plugs leads (arcing in plug sockets etc), could generally be breaking down or dizzy cap maybe cracked.
To test, try spraying these bits in WD40 & see if it improves slightly!:)
 
Second hand MAS are false economies.

You can't rule it out with a 2nd .
 
Thanks for all your comments guys,
It has new distributor caps and rotors.
Suppose it could be the leads breaking down?
Any thoughts/experiences on the ignition module failing?
What is an OVP?
I'm not going to let this beat me,
Appreciate the 2nd hand MAS comment. However, a new one is prohibitively expensive (for me) and a Chinese one is an even worse false economy! Bearing in mind the car behaved identically with both MAS's, no subtle differences I am willing to assume the fault's not there. Hope I don't come full circle to this!
Keep the help coming!
Kieron
 
Check all the vac pipes are secure.
 
Yep - vacuum pipe problem. All sorted now and sweet as a nut! Thanks for all your help. Happy New Year.
 

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