2008 W204 C280 & C200 Sport Questions

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sylvester

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Hello,

I'm a potential MB owner / convert and despite having had two test drives recently still have a number of questions and would appreciate if existing owners would share their insight and experience.
I tested both a C280 Elegance and more recently the C200 Sport (wanted to try a C280 sport but this was the closest that I could get).


Fuel Economy:

The C200 seemed to put in a reasonable showing with an overall average of 32.3 mpg over a run of 339 mile, consisting of a mix between motorway cruising and some A & B road's, a relatively even mix of both.
Is this the typical type of performance that can be expected of the C200 once its run in ? (My demo had 1895 miles on the clock when delivered). mpg was measured using the on-board trip computer
What are owners typically seeing over their normal journeys and what sort of driving conditions ?

The C280 I had a few weeks back obviously turned in lower figures but I had not discovered / worked out the trip function so relied upon more ready reckoning approach of just dividing my mileage by fuel used, not so accurate as I sort of guestimated to a degree as to where the needle was before I first filled up. However I estimated something in the region of 26-27 mpg again over a mixture of motorway cruising and A&B road blatting to see how it performed.
Again would be appreciative of feedback from existing owners as to what they typically see with the C280.


Audio 50 APS vs Command:

The C200 Sport was basic spec with no "toys" to speak of just the base Audio 20, the C280 elegance cam with the full command package, which was really quite impressive (almost wish I had not seen it as its bound to cost me money in the end).
I cant help wondering though how great the difference is between the SatNav and audio performance of the Audio 50 APS vs Command. There seems to be almost no pictures, reviews or comments on either on the web from which to compare.

My head is telling me that financially the Audio 50 APS is the right compromise for my wallet but my heart is saying I may be disappointed having seen the fully Monty in action. So the 64 Million Dollar question is how vast is the difference in functionality and the graphics between the two ? Comments views, insight and especially pictures greatly appreciated



Advanced Agility Pack:

Now the C200 Sport was a revelation after the C280 Elegance in terms of ride and handling performance, it just felt so tight and colleted, really together as a package, where as the Elegance felt sloppy and disconnected.
This may just my personal preferences speaking as I'm coming from a 200SX with a firm ride and loads of steering feedback but even Wife Central noted the sport as being vastly superior.

The big question is what level of difference does the Advanced Agility Pack add to the existing sport models, if the handling really further improved, how much faster are the gear shifts (still felt a little sluggish in the C200 sport even with the steering wheel mounted paddles) and most of all what is the difference in terms of throttle response.
I'm really trying to judge if its delivers any tangible benefit for the extra outlay or if its a button on the dash which will get little use or just left in one position

What about the C230 ?

I could not really see the reason for this model in the range, I initially thought it may be a good halfway house between the C200 and C280 but based on the official MB figures its fuel economy seems to be no different from the C280, the cost differential is negligible in the scheme of things and the power output closer to the C200 than its bigger brother. So to me does not seem to make a lot of sense on any level but I may be missing something fundamental so other opinions welcome



General Opinions:

The C200 Sport despite the much better IMHO handling it still felt a little underpowered in terms of acceleration either from a standing start or in gear above third, so an open question against its bigger brother despite the financial and mpg trade offs.
Any subjective opinions of what its like to live with longer term would be really helpful.

I appreciate there are a lot of questions here for a first post but I figured the forum seemed to be populated with a lot of helpful and knowledgeable people, so who better to seek input from than those who live with these beasts day in day out.

Thanks In advance
 
Have you tried / considered the diesel options?
 
I had certainly considered the diesel option from an economy perspective but was concern that the performance may not be in line with my expectations.
The mid range diesels seem to be low on bhp and acceleration stakes compared to the petrol's so the only model that seems to be in the running was the C320 CDi which was pushing the budget and only seems to be available in Elegance trim both of which ruled it out of the running.

Is the gap between them closer than I suspected based on the paper figures ? of course I have not test driven one of the diesel and may be pushing my luck asking for a third bite at the cherry.

Rgds
 
Diesel-Automatic every time... my C220 CDi does around 43-48mpg around town depending how hard i drive it.
I think the 1.8 l engine in the Kompressor is not enough for this big car, i would have gone higher than the C220 but there was no point.

The (All new) Comand APS is the dogs nads... i would not buy one with out it.
 
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You must check the C320CDi, Faster than the C280 and almost as economical as the C220CDi. I bought one (a 320CDi Elegance W204) and over 2000 miles of A and B roads it has averaged 36.5mpg. Fast, frugal and like myself built for comfort.:)
 
I had certainly considered the diesel option from an economy perspective but was concern that the performance may not be in line with my expectations.
The mid range diesels seem to be low on bhp and acceleration stakes compared to the petrol's so the only model that seems to be in the running was the C320 CDi which was pushing the budget and only seems to be available in Elegance trim both of which ruled it out of the running.

Is the gap between them closer than I suspected based on the paper figures ? of course I have not test driven one of the diesel and may be pushing my luck asking for a third bite at the cherry.

Rgds


No its available in Sport...
 
SEM, Oldcro and Crockers, thanks for your feedback much appreciated.

Not sure how I missed the 320Cdi being available with the sports pack must be blind or stupid (possibly both). Just the question of the large hike in base price which seems rather large by comparison with the rest of the range.

Definitely the benefit of seeking opinions and guidance from those in the know.

3.5K over the C280 seems excessive for similar performance but strangely adding the sports pack to the 320Cdi seems to be £1,195 cheaper than the other models I presume that's partly due to it not being offered in SE trim and therefore the difference between Elegance and Sport but still helps to narrow the difference to just over £2.2K so may not be that bad of a difference overall.

I will certainly do some more investigation of the 320cdi unfortunately the company car site is down until Monday so I can't work out what the monthly differential would be between the three until then.
So fingers crossed it's not a great deal and I may have the right compromise.

I presume that the Diesel is a little heavier than the equivalent petrol (only assumed as I have not located any hard data), if that's the case is it noticeable ? or have any effect on front end handling ?

Once again thanks for your assistance
 
Have you considered a C220 cdi with a Brabus chip...MB warrantied...
 
to buy or not to buy

We have the 220CDI Sport with the advance Agility pack. Big difference to one without and it really does make a difference. Unless you intend to drive 0-60 in 7 seconds every time you leave your house you will find the 220 quite fast enough. good fuel consumption and a nice drive on long journeys when the button is off.
 
We have the 220CDI Sport with the advance Agility pack. Big difference to one without and it really does make a difference.
How much of a difference... ? thought mine handled well anyway? ie.. no sway in island and corners
 
Thank you all for your feedback and advice, it has certainly made me rethink the options, especially around the Diesel’s and the C320 Cdi being available in the sport version as well (how I missed that I’ll never know)

Anyway I’ve finally come to a conclusion and plumped for the C320 CDi sport with the Full command options (how could I resist), Advanced agility pack, Leather, Birdseye maple trim and Ipod dock.
Just got to wait now for the paperwork to wend its way through the corporate car scheme before getting an order confirmation and delivery date.
I have been thinking though about going for the factory collection, anyone care to share any experiences and views in that regard ?

Anyway once again thanks for your advice all.
 
I've done the factory collection -- turned it into a few days holiday and ambled back -- stop in Trier - lovely walled city..
 
I did it as well. Although, as my C class is an estate, it's produced in Bremen where the collection centre for this particular model is as well. Saloons are made in South Africa and collected from Stuttgart.

Great trip back and for free (also did some work while at our german offices).

As a note, the C320 Cdi is a gem.... especially with the Brabus kit.
 
I have been thinking though about going for the factory collection, anyone care to share any experiences and views in that regard ?

Anyway once again thanks for your advice all.

We collected our new ML there a couple of years ago and had a thouroughly good time. We stopped off in Epernay, France, and stocked up on Champagne at really good prices. We also had a fabulous hotel overlooking Epernay with a meal in the Michelin star restaurant all booked by MB in the UK before we went. Extremley well organised.

We are going to do it again when we buy our next car....:)

Mark.
 

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