54 plate c220 cdi needing bluetooth HELP

[HITECH]

Hi I am now wanting to get my phone integrated with the cars system and also use my ipod aswell. Its a bit of a minefield and i dont know what I need or what I dont need going by what is already in the car. When i bought the car its got a nokia cradle fitted for an older phone. There is also a wired tax disk in the windscreen which appears to be attached to a little box fitted under the glove compartment. Im guessing the tax disk holder is some sort of Ariel. I have no idea where to go with what system I need or can get for my car so really need some major advice on right way to go. Wanting it integrated with the cars stereo system ofcourse. Attached is some pictures which can simplify what am talking about. Please gimme advice on what need and the simplest method to get bluetooth integrated.

 

[HITECH]

Is all I need the ViseeO MBU 3000 adapter kit to plug into the cradle? If so will this work for bluetoothing other seperate devices like ipod for music ?

 

[Ted]

If you have the connector in the armrest the viseeo should work but it won't stream music.

 

[Ted]

Edit:the 3000 will also need the cradle - my bad
Mb-2, 3 & 4 should fit yours.

 

[HITECH]

no connector in arm rest. Will this mbu 3000 not just slot into the phone cradle? Would I be able to play music from the phone thru the car then?

 

[Ted]

I don't think the MBU3000 will fit that cradle - unless the cradle is for a Nokia 6210/6310 as the MBU3000 is specific to that form factor phone.
Whatever - there is no music streaming through a Viseeo device except the MB3 where it is via FM.
If you have the 3.5mm socket in the glovebox, this would give you phone connectivity and music streaming - it also provides the slight amplification boost needed as the aux in can be a bit low volume.
You would lose the dash and steering wheel functions, but voice dialling works.

 

[HITECH]

ok cheers for the info Ted. a car audio company said its the mbu 3000 i need after seeing the pictures aswell. i dont really care about address books n contacts really. its more for accepting calls without having to use an earpeice bluetooth device. Would the mbu 1000 do the same job just minus some added things that the mbu 3000 has. if so im aswell to get the mbu 1000 for basic bluetooth and steering wheel functions eh?

 

[AMGeed]

^ Whether you get the Viseeo MB1000 or 3000, both will sync your phone book contacts with the press of one button. The 1000 will do all you need if that model is definitely one one you need.

 

[HITECH]

1000+3000

1000 and 3000 have exact same fittings dont they? no sense in me paying more for 3000 if the 1000 version does the job for me eh?

^ Whether you get the Viseeo MB1000 or 3000, both will sync your phone book contacts with the press of one button. The 1000 will do all you need if that model is definitely one one you need.

 

[richard]

Neither.

That is a Nokia aftermarket car kit. It is not factory fit phone system and thus the Viseeo's wont work.

You can take it out and put a Parrot system in, or retrofit an integrated phone system (which will then be usable from the stereo and the cluster and steering wheel buttons)

Richard

 

[HITECH]

bluetooth

Its a 6310 nokia cradle (which i have since found out ) which has been integrated with the cars controls and steering wheel buttons going by the neatness of it all. It would be pointless to go to the hassle of puting an aftermarket phone system in and be unable to use the steering wheel controls and it thru the stereo. I cant see anybody actually doing this on a 54 plate and having no use of the steering wheel buttons and stereo function buttons. So your confident the viseeo when plugged into this cradle isnt gonna bluetooth a phone with the steering wheel buttons and stereo working ? Im gonna try it n reckon it will.

Neither.

That is a Nokia aftermarket car kit. It is not factory fit phone system and thus the Viseeo's wont work.

You can take it out and put a Parrot system in, or retrofit an integrated phone system (which will then be usable from the stereo and the cluster and steering wheel buttons)

Richard

 

[richard]

HiTech

It is not integrated. Thats why you have a separate speaker in the footwell - it doesn't even have a speaker interface box to use the car's speakers. Its a Nokia kit (something like a CARK-91), that will operate the MUTE wire on the stereo when a call comes in and use that additional speaker. I don't think there was a CANbus interface for the CARK-91 and if they didn't bother with a speaker interface box, then they didn't fork out the £££ for a CAN interface (if it was available)

I've seen *loads* of people with 54 plate C class with no use of steering controls for the phone and a parrot or other handsfree added. Even though the box for making a Parrot work with the steering buttons isn't hugely expensive. The factory integrated phone system was £££££ at the time.

An aftermarket integrated system with bluetooth costs around £500 installed. See
https://www.commandonline.co.uk/Fiscon-Pro-Mercedes.html
and
https://www.commandonline.co.uk/mcar_umi.html

for instance.

Richard

 

[HITECH]

Hi Richard, some conflicting info then from various car audio companies. 2 Companies have been sent the pictures and stereo model and car details etc and they both say the mbu-3000 is the device to get plug in and work on what is already in the car. Ok my question is , are they just trying to do a hard sell n sell their product weither it works or not lol Possibly. Wouldnt be the first time. Whys the tax disk wired. RF with the present system thats innstalled u reckon? Ok sounds like u DO know what ur talking about. Whats cheapest method then for me to have a bluetooth installed to use my phone and music with or without steering controls etc?

HiTech

It is not integrated. Thats why you have a separate speaker in the footwell - it doesn't even have a speaker interface box to use the car's speakers. Its a Nokia kit (something like a CARK-91), that will operate the MUTE wire on the stereo when a call comes in and use that additional speaker. I don't think there was a CANbus interface for the CARK-91 and if they didn't bother with a speaker interface box, then they didn't fork out the £££ for a CAN interface (if it was available)

I've seen *loads* of people with 54 plate C class with no use of steering controls for the phone and a parrot or other handsfree added. Even though the box for making a Parrot work with the steering buttons isn't hugely expensive. The factory integrated phone system was £££££ at the time.

An aftermarket integrated system with bluetooth costs around £500 installed. See
https://www.commandonline.co.uk/Fiscon-Pro-Mercedes.html
and
https://www.commandonline.co.uk/mcar_umi.html

for instance.

Richard

 

[richard]

I think they have just assumed you have factory fit. Although a '54 car would have UHI and a detachable cradle and you'd need a MB-4 in that case. I've tried the MBU-1000 and 3000 in "non Mercedes" (including Bentley, etc) and it doesn't work - it is expecting to talk to the Mercedes.

The tax disk is wired as it is the aerial feed from the cradle.

The cheapest way is something like a Parrot Mki9200 (which has a display to control it). You can add a Unika to get steering wheel controls if you want (but this won't allow use of the stereo's keypad / phone buttons / address-book in the stereo)

You have two properly integrated options I can think of, which would allow you to use the keypad on the Audio-20, the phone keys on the stereo, and load the phonebook into the car so you can use that - and the steering wheel controls of course. That is the Fiscon Pro (see my last post) which gives you all the phone stuff and bluetooth audio streaming. Or the mCar which also adds a digital iPod interface which sounds very good. But in both cases more cash than the parrot route - but no extra display and use of the keypad etc. In both cases you would lose the CD changer (if you have one) for the BT Audio and iPod functions.

If you don't want the music functions and steering wheel controls, then there are plenty of cheaper solutions too as you can keep using that external speaker.

I hope that helps

Worth talking to Alfie, [email protected] if you want someone to fit something

Cheers

Richard