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ADS Light Stays On

rod49

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My car is a 1993 R129 SL500 Built Feb 1993 with Australian compliance
WDB129067 2F 079774
Eng No. 119972 22 003091
Not long after I bought it the ADS light came on intermittently sometimes going off when restarted, and as I found out later, after resetting the steering angle sensor with the full right left lock manoeuvre.
After a few weeks the light stayed on permanently.
I took the vehicle to a service agent and was diagnosed with a faulty steering angle sensor.
One was purchased through MB spares in Canberra - genuine part manufactured 22/1/04 according to the box and fitted to the vehicle. Since the new sensor has been fitted the light has never gone out.
Car was put through diagnostic checker again and it then said that the electronic control unit was kaput. Reluctant to shell out another nearly $4000 (MB Aus price) for new control unit I was called in when an identical car was in for service and we put my control unit in the other car and it worked perfectly.
However the steering angle sensors were different – mine has a 4 wire one the other car had a 6 wire so we could not swap them.
I am still waiting patiently (months) for a car with a 4 wire sensor to come in to do a swap.
The service agent claims he has checked all the wiring and that there is power to the sensor. The upper bracket tube dimension has also been checked and was spot on.
When dealing with MB Spares I gave them the old sensor part number (they asked as a matter of interest) and they claimed it was one from a left hand drive! Seems someone has been in there before us for some reason. Since found out that it was manufactured in 92 from the casting so it may have had the LHD steering angle sensor in since new.
I don’t want to buy another new steering angle sensor unless I positively know that the new one I purchased is faulty.
Would you like to have a go at solving the mystery???
As you would know the suspension defaults to the hard setting and I am a bit over it!
 
Wonder if this article is of any help? Yet another ASR Problem; '94 S500 Its on a W140 but I imagine the electronics box that contains many of the V8 control modules of that period might be similar. Have a quick read thro and see if any of the hardware seems familiar? If it does it might be worth a more detailed read.:dk: In Jim Forgione's case the fault seemed to lie with the ETA electronic throttle actuator
 
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ADS is a pain to diagnose... I feel for you..

From what you say I dont think it will be the EHA as its not linked to the suspension really.

Is the fault code that now comes up still the steering angle sensor?
 
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Thanks for the response. Yes I believe that it is the steering angle sensor fault code that is still coming up.
Cheers
 
Thanks I have that diagram and we are going to check wiring against it.
Will let you know the outcome.
Cheers
 
On reading a little more on this problem it would appear that sometimes steering angle sensor faults are due to faulty steering alignment/wear coupled to steering wheel position. Lets for the sake of argument assume your steering is slightly out of alignment- perhaps a little too much toe out on the nearside wheel- the steering will self align running along the road but the net effect would be when running along the road the steering wheel would turned slightly off centre despite the car apparently running straight. This might be enough to trigger a fault code ?? OR the steering wheel was simply replaced on the column when the wheels were not exactly in the straight ahead position Any technical literature on installing the steering angle sensor makes great play of this. Only other thing I can think of which would be common to the old and new units would be the earth arrangement- might be worth checking that again carefully?
 
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Thanks again but to test your theory the light would have to be out after initialising and come on while driving along. It will not reinitialise at all and the light is on all the time.
I am getting a further wiring check by a different person to see if this helps identify the problem
Cheers
 
You need to have it on star to check the actual values... turn the steering to each limit and see what the reading says. For example if one way says 360 degrees + then the other side should be -360. If one is 330 and the other 390 then it means the centre is not set correctly and this is then done by disconnecting the battery for a while, ensure steering wheel is straight ahead, reconnect after maybe 10-15 mins, then initialise by going lock to lock 3 times.
 
No I haven't done what Jaymanek suggested as yet but I dont think it will fix the problem. The MB literature says to reset the steering angle sensor to just turn the wheel full lock left and right. To do it 3 times after disconnecting the battery is a new suggestion.
Any further ideas?
 
You cant set it without disconnecting the battery, it only sets once so you need to wipe its memory and start again.

These problems sometimes occur when people disconnect the battery whilst leaving the steering crooked and/or dont reset the angle sensor.
 
Well I have disconnected the battery for 30 mins and reconnected. Started the car and the ADS light was on and after 3 turns lock to lock ADS light did not go out.
Where do we go from here?
Cheers
 
Needs to be plugged into a star machine... Where in the country are you?
 
Australia. Its a big world!!!
I will do as you suggest with a service agent who has a Star machine.
Merry Xmas.
 
I have a 1997 W140 S600 and have ADS problems (all 3 lights on the dash). I've hooked up to Star diagnostics and been advised that there is a fault with the front right motion sensor. I've replaced it, but the fault persists.

Interestingly, when the weather is cold all is fine, but if it gets warm/hot +circa 18degC the lights are almost always on and I experience the harsh ride.

Any advice on what to do next? I've got a print out of the wiring diagram and see that there are quite a few components involved...
 
Without detailed info on your system difficult to say.
this might be of help.
ADS II

I would always suspect active components i.e suspension parts such as shocks or spheres
 

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