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Advice needed: Hit and run car park incident

chriswt

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Not used the forum for a while, but this forum feels like an old friend and so its some friendly advice that I'm after.

My sisters car (white Fiesta) was hit while parked in the local train station car park. Whom ever hit it drove off without leaving any details. The damage looks slight but involves a new indicator unit (separate to the main headlight unit) and colour coded front bumper because the ridged plastic coating on the old bumper has cracked off revealing the hard foam underneath. There is no paint marks left by the other car apart from some metallic sliver residue.

From my initial inspection of the damage and a visit to the car park last night I came to three obvious conclusions:

1. The car that hit her was silver
2. It had to be big because like an MPV or SUV because the car in question needed a high protruding bumper to able to smash the indicator lense.
3. The damaged to the other car must have been on the Near side front or rear.

My girlfriend has been back to the scene as my sister told us last night that a big silver car often parks in the space opposite hers which is one of only two spaces where a reversing car could have hit hers.

I’ve just spoken to her and she has found a silver MPV parked up with white and black (underneath the white bumper is black plastic) scrapes on the near side of the rear bumper.

I estimate that the damage would cost £250+ for a garage to repair.

With no solid evidence where do I go from here guys and gals? leave a not on the cars windscreen saying we know it was you or go straight to the insurance company for them to battle out.
 
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I'd goto the carpark operator and see if they can check thier CCTV footage for a number plate. Beyond that, it would not be fair to approach this silver car and ask if they caused the damage. You just know they'll deny it and say thier damage was from something else.

If you do approach them, do so with caution, or bring a baseball bat . . . . Did I say that out loud? :devil:
 
Many station car parks have CCTV ... I would check this first.

MPVs don't usually have a bumper that's any higher than a normal car (but SUVs do, because of the increased ground clearance required for off roading :rolleyes:).
 
Before you approach them - and assuming you do, then take photo's of the damage to their car and yours. Use a normal camera - not digital and if I was you I'd hold a metre rule next to the damage on both cars. This way you provide a reference point to compare the heights etc - if things are repaired before you can take it any further.

However do think very carefully before you proceed, and don't go in hardball. I'd try the reasonable assumption approach and if you like, move your white car right next to theirs to point it out. They'd have to be bare faced liars on what you've said if the match is that close.

J.
 
Thanks but no CCTV or man-in-a-hut type thing!

I know that it is wrong to apporch the silver car as it wasn't caught with its hand in the cookie jar but it was found with cookie crumbs on its fingers!

Knowing the kind of person that drives an old jap import MPV I doubt that they even realised that had hit it!
 
You could always say that someone else in the carpark witnessed the incident and told you when you returned.

I know it's not true but it might be enough leverage to get the other party to admit to it, if it genuinely was them.
 
The MPV was a Toyota Estima and if you look at the model year it has a high protruding rear bumber. I just need to find out the dimentions and then I can put together some evidence.

I'll try and dig out a 35mm camera!
 
chriswt said:
I'll try and dig out a 35mm camera!
You could buy a disposable with flash for about £10 from Boots, often includes the price of development (also from Boots ;) ).
 
Hi there,

As Shude said, you could take the route saying someone noticed the car and registration number and informed you.

Exactly the same thing happened to one of my friends. Except she hit somebody's car in a car park. She couldn't see anybody around and came back 10 mins later and the car was gone. One week after the incident, she received a letter from the police:eek: saying that someone reported a hit and run accident. She then had to take all her documents ( licence, insurance etc ) to the police station to verify her legal position. Eventually she received a letter from the third party's insurance company pinning her responsibilties on the claim. She passed all details to her insurance company and that was that. Police was satisfied with all her documents and the matter ended. No more problem.

So, try the police and avoid direct confrontation if the insurance route fails. It may work.
Good luck.
 
I've got the girlfriend on the case, now that shes off to Waitrose to buy a disposable she'll also see it as an opportunity to stock up on wine!

Once I satisfy myself that it was the car in question then I might just take the risk and pop a friendly but to-the-point note on the windscreen and see what happens.
 
Shude said:
You could always say that someone else in the carpark witnessed the incident and told you when you returned.

I know it's not true but it might be enough leverage to get the other party to admit to it, if it genuinely was them.

If you do go to the Police, be aware that Shudes suggestion could get you/your sister arrested.

:eek:
 
I'm tempted to write a note myself but putting NO name or address details. At lease it looks like we arrived at the car details in a legitimate way and took pictures after we found out the car registration.
 
Swiss Toni said:
If you do go to the Police, be aware that Shudes suggestion could get you/your sister arrested.

:eek:

at least we won't go to jail.............no room!
 
Do you still have a sample of the paint deposited on your car ; can you obtain a sample of white paint off the other car ?

If so , forensic analysis may be able to match the paint samples between the two vehicles and show the make and colour of the 'other' vehicle each came in contact with . Dimensional matching of the marks would also help ; if you can park your car next to the other one and photograph the two damaged parts alongside each other it may just be all the proof you need .
 
Pontoneer said:
If so , forensic analysis may be able to match the paint samples between the two vehicles and show the make and colour of the 'other' vehicle each came in contact with .

Who can do that, and how much would it cost?
 
Police Forensics. A bit like our version of CSI!

I'm no expert but I'm sure they would need to be investigating a crime before they would touch this. Not to mention to get paint for analysis from the offending MPV van thing would involve scratching paint off it, in itself an act of vandalism unless the fuzz are already involved.

As much as hate to admit it, this might just be one to chalk up to experience and move on, and reconsider parking in an area with better security.
 
Rose Chap said:
As much as hate to admit it, this might just be one to chalk up to experience and move on, and reconsider parking in an area with better security.

Here here, try the local supermarket:D :D
 
Pontoneer said:
Do you still have a sample of the paint deposited on your car ; can you obtain a sample of white paint off the other car ?

If so , forensic analysis may be able to match the paint samples between the two vehicles and show the make and colour of the 'other' vehicle each came in contact with . Dimensional matching of the marks would also help ; if you can park your car next to the other one and photograph the two damaged parts alongside each other it may just be all the proof you need .

Its an interesting idea, but....

Rather like modern glass modern paint is mass produced in such volumes that such a match would have limited value in "proving" anything and so is not really cost effective in the case of a car-park scrape (but might be done in other crimes where it adds to other evidence already gathered).

The cost of this analysis is likely to be in the £000s (£00s at best) - and all you would get is confirmation that it is identical to a sample from the "suspect" vehicle (so you need to get a sample of that paint too...), which is of the formula used to paint 25000 other vehicles in the same manufacturing cycle.

:cool:
 
frog1520 said:
Who can do that, and how much would it cost?

http://www.forensic-access.co.uk/index.htm

But it will cost and with no guarantee of any half successful outcome. Life is too short for the aggro involved.
 

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