All-weather V Winter tyres

[bpsorrel]

Driving happily here in Russia with many inches of snow, laying over inches of compacted snow and ice on Nexen All-Weather (M+S) tyres has got me thinking about what to put on my Toyota when I get home.

If it's still snowing and/or very cold, my summers won't cut it but I'm wondering whether to do what I do here and just get all-weathers for all year round rather than forking out for full winter tyres and having to store the summers. On my Nissan here the M+S work just as well in the summer and are wonderful in heavy rain.

Anyone else run all-weather M+S tyres in UK?

 

[st4]

IIRC its a common thing in the US, not so sure here. Good luck with the enquiry.

I'll leave this in the general section for the time being given the inclement weather and that your post gets greater coverage.

 

[bpsorrel]

Thanks Steve

 

[st4]

PRODUCTS

All season tyres...

Have a look.

I can see the logic in your idea, you'll have a jack of all trades type tyres but master of none.

I'll take a punt you're on 17's

http://www.camskill.co.uk/m140b0s0p...eason_-_All_Weather_-_Car_MPV_Tyres_-_17_inch

 

[bpsorrel]

Yup, 17s. Thing is I don't drive this car on the limit and as long as I can make normal, safe progress I'm happy. The CLS will stay at home....

 

[st4]

Yup, 17s. Thing is I don't drive this car on the limit and as long as I can make normal, safe progress I'm happy. The CLS will stay at home....

IIRC I recall this in an evo tyre test. The all season was a lot better than a summer tyre but a fair way off the winter one.

Personally, I feel you're better buying the winter ones as they save the wear on your summers as you are using them less....

My summer tyres will last next year and probably the year after, and that'll be me before I need to change tyres as the winters will do next winter too

Still, its £118 a corner (took a hunch 225 all round) and they'll be ok for UK conditions. Don't blame you for not using the CLS, the fear of a gritter peppering the car would do my head in. I was southbound on the A9 nr Dunkeld and an oncoming gritter got me, can't be good for the paint...skip protection OCD kicking in

Try 'em and let us know how you get on...

I'd like other peoples input into this thread. Its a good topic to discuss right now...

 

[bpsorrel]

I probably will as I'm very happy with the M+S I use here in frankly far more demanding conditions.

Ugh!!! Gritter peppering! Had it happen on my 211 and it left the car looking like it had acne! No way that's happening to my CLS! Also, powerful rear drive and ice, even on winters, don't mix! I'm not sure it would get out of the sloped drive it sits in anyway!

 

[grober]

I have run winter tyres all year round without drama or excessive wear. Its not something I would advocate on a high performance model regularly driven at high speeds in high ambient temperatures - e.g. on the continent in summer. But for everyday motoring you would see little difference between summer and winter tyres. Between winter and all weather tyres there is a wide variety choice to the extent that a more aggressively treaded "all weather" tyre might be a coarser treaded tyre than a conservative winter type. My personal preference is for conservatively treaded winter tyre. Michelin are good choice is this respect but there are many others with some adopting a split personality tread pattern of 50% block pattern 50% conventional tread such as the Nokian WR G2

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

ML270 has M+S all year. Genuinely unstoppable.

C32 has Winters all year. Makes the undriveable driveable. Stops me getting cramp in my buttocks from clenching whenit snows - or threatens to. Summer wheels tyres have sat In the garage for more than 2 years!

ML63 has brand new Summers, but winter wheels (no tyres) await in the garage. I might pop to get a Chinese in the Ml63 to see how she fairs. We have about 4 inches but with some small drifts in places.

 

[chriswt]

My enjoying my first car shod with winter tyres (thanks to the car previously residing in Scotland) and they have proved to be excellent today. I've been able to drive up a completely snow covered incline without any drama at all; the only other car I managed to drive up it in was a 4motion golf.

The winter tyres have also been excellent in the rain and I certainly feel that the car is more sure footed in bad weather than it would be with summer tyres.

I'm looking forward to fitting the summer tyres (which are currently in the back of the garage) so that I can draw a proper comparaison.

I personally like the idea of two sets of tyres dedicated to the conditions they were designed for and will probably continue this theme when I buy my next rear wheel drive motor.

 

[GP801]

The 124 has Kleber Quadraxer 225 45 17 all season tyres and they work very well. However the SLK has a set of Kumho 17inch winter tyres and these definitely give better grip on the snow than the Klebers.

 

[Palfrem]

My LC 4 has a set of road oriented Bridgestones

No probs at all today.

My W124 on Continentals also had no issues whatsoever.

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt243/Grumpy_Palfers/IMG_01781024x768.jpg

 

[Rory]

IIRC its a common thing in the US, not so sure here.

I think they just call them All Season tyres there - the treadwear ratings and mileage guarantees they have are incredible which makes me think they can't be "true" all weather tyres.

I noticed that the summer Dunlop SP2030 tyres my wife's Honda Jazz came with are referred to as All Season in some markets. Her car has been running for the last year on Michelin Alpin full winter tyres - they work fine and the wear rate looks to be slower than the Dunlop's.

I think all weather/season tyres make a lot of sense in the UK for year-round use.

 

[C240Sport97]

you can order All Season tyres on new Porsche Cayenne's at no additional cost