AMG W124 Hammer ?

[Anna Log]

My first post on this board.

Having come across a photo of the above and read through some past posts on this board re the above I have decided to do a little research to try and find out just how many were produced?

I know user Vlad and possibly one or two others have owned one in the past and wonder if anyone can fill me in on build numbers, LHD/RHD and both saloons and estate models?

Were they ever only produced in black or were there any colour options?

Am I correct in that the original Hammers were 5.6 or with the 6.0 option?

Thanks in anticipation.

BTW, sorry no Mercedes ownership just yet. Maybe one day.

Phil

 

[jaymanek]

Talbir is your man... He has a 5.6 version...

 

[Vlad]

Early ones in Europe had the 5.0 Quad Cam and then later on came the 5.6 and 6.0....5.0 never sold in US.

Approx 28 Hammers sold, most of which were in the US......came in various colours, but blue/black metallic seemed to be the favourite....seen photos of them in silver, solid red, white. Most of the cars were CE Coupes, although the UK cars were Saloons

Only 3 RHD cars sold...one 5.0 the two others were 5.6

If you do a search under AMG Hammer you should find lots of info

Some pics of my old one

 

[The G.F.P]

stunning cars

shame the interior are CE looking and not the new w124 coupe looking as the interior on your pics is not nice

id kill for a RHD coupe with the later interior

infact id kill for any decent merc w124 coupe

 

[Anna Log]

Thanks for the information.

It was this estate image that caught my eye and got me to look into these cars further:

Vlad,

Would you know how many estates were produced in either LHD or RHD?

I would dearly love to find one of these, surely one ultimate Q car.

Phil

 

[Vlad]

That particular Estate is not a true Hammer...the guy who converted it used an M117 engine from memory but it wasn't a quad cam, but whenever he refered to his car, he refered to it as a Hammer, but in reality is isn't.

As far as I know there were no true Hammer estates produced.

 

[Anna Log]

You've just shattered my dream Vlad.

So, if I win the lottery do you think AMG would build me one if I find a clean donor?

I don't think so.

Thanks for the feedback and interesting information.

Phil

 

[kth286]

Yes -AMG probably will build you one.

They have a special dept that does one offs - for a price of course.

 

[Barbanasos]

You could also ask Brabus, I am pretty sure they could try to squeeze the 7.3 v12 in a 124 and that for a lot of money. I paid £26 for the march 1999 EVO magazine just because it featured the w210 EV12. The engine conversion is £147,000 then they will add up everything down to the donor car which for the case was a E200 for £26k anyway that car was £220k

A very special beast indeed. I still rate it over the new brabus stuff.

 

[talbir]

Some pics of my old one

Who put those side skirts on ? They aren't the period correct ones for that model.


talbir

 

[pupsi]

Are the hammers just big engines put into 124s?
Are they regular 5.6 engines from SECs/SELs etc shoehorned in?

Or are there other differences? I mean just mechanically and disregarding the interior trim.

EDIT: Never mind...

http://www.fantasycars.com/sedans/HTML/mercedes_300e_amg_hammer_w124.html

It sounds like a 'Hammer' could be replicated without too much difficulty.
Would make for an interesting project for me one day

 

[Anna Log]

Yes, the 5.6 was shoehorned in with a stretched version to 6.0 being an extra cost option. I think Vlad confirmed that real Hammers had the DOHC engine.

Yes, as that article (above link) shows plenty of other modifications so that car can handle the extra performance.

Brabus's use of the 7.3, is that the same type and size engine as Pagani has fitted in the Zonda albeit with an AMG badge.

Peter Saywell has one - beautiful, especially when he parked it next to my De Tomaso at last years Bristol Italian car and bike show.

I still like the idea of a 124 estate Q car.

Phil

 

[Howard]

The hammer engines were quad cam weren't they ? not DOHC ?

This V12 is in an estate ...

 

[Will]

The hammer engines were quad cam weren't they ? not DOHC ?

V8 with DOHC = Quad cam

Basically two cams per cylinder head - V8 has two heads, each with DOHC setup.

You're both right/thinking the same thing

Will

 

[Black63]

Hi Info from Fast Lane Mag August 1989

AMG Advert

Test results

M

 

[Black63]

Check out this link for a 500E Brabus

Brabus



Martyn

 

[uchiha]

Check out this link for a 500E Brabus

Brabus



Martyn

Oh man, that was special. What I don't understand is, when you look at a closed deck 500E block, the cylinders are already tight. How on earth do they bore out to 6.5 litres?

Also, why did AMG only do 6 litres and Renntech 6.2 if it's possible to do 6.5?

 

[Anna Log]

Howard,

I bet that V12 handles like a pig unless the chassis has been seriously sorted. That engine is about as far forward as the original Audi Quattro and it's 5 cylinder engine.

Will,

Correct.

Black,

That's interesting as I've never thought of these two together. I knew of an original E38 Alpina B12 6.0 but it required a lot of TLC and around £6K in Alpina parts to bring it up to parr and at an asking price of £15K was just too much. I offered him £5K - he declined my offer. Suffice to say it's still for sale.

It looks like the gearing gives the wide disparity in performance. The Hammer has the accelleration while the BMW has the top end.

Thank you all for the continuing comments.

Phil