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Anybody had a chip/Remap done to there Mercedes

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As above did it work any problems noticed, was there a difference in preformance and fuel delivery.
And what make was fitted and would you recommend it........
 
C230 Kompressor, DMS remap, no diference in power, wouldn't recommend it.
 
W202 C200 Superchipped, C180k Chipped by CCC. Both felt a bit more "drivable" but show only minor gains on the dyno. I had my car reflashed to standard for insurance reasons. ie try adding a 19 year on a modded car!
 
So that's standard 2 chips/remaps 0

or 2-0 to the home team...:D
 
DMS remap and delimit, big differnece...................:thumb:
 
DMS my SLK55AMG.

noticeable difference to all out power and the delivery too. Merc state the standard 0-60 of this car is 4.9secs.

Even with the added wieght of Pammy, and a bit of traction issues, it was getting 4.8secs. would have guesstimated it would have done it 4.3 to 4.5secs given good traction.

recorded 164mph at bruntingthorpe. I assume it would have acheived more if it had a longer straight line.

No difference in MPG either way. That purely depended on how you drove at the time.


The car had more midrange power and you could feel it.

The current car, being a diesel, has also had a remap. Massive difference in power. Huge difference on torque too.

And, you have to drive very carefully and not press the throttle much, you can eke out a good MPG. That said, I never gave it a MPG test prior to having it changed.

Until I put a larger bore air intake on it, the levels of smoke at low revs and full throttle were amusing to say the least. As its getting more air, it seems to have better combustion so less smoke. (less being less than amusing levels, but not clean by any stretch).

But certainly makes a mid range difference to this car too.

A non turbo, small petrol engine may only gain 8% or so with a remap. So with, lets take a 100bhp engine, you probably won't notice much, but a stop watch would show it, as would a rolling road.

If you can get a custom remap, you could get it to have more mid range torque, and not bother too much with increasing ultimate power, this may have the desired effect, but will cost.
 
It certainly makes a difference and its the bigger "bang for your buck". But turbo-charged, and moreover diesel turbo engines benefit a whole lot more.
 
If you remap a diesel and it caused it to smoke more -- how is that a good thing? Or is that just a inefficient remap?
 
its not, its a sympton of over fuelling. you can cure it by not having as higher a power remap or get some more air into it.

alternatively, you learn to drive it different as it only smokes when full throttle is applied at low revs. By not standing on the pedal, but applying pressuse constantly as the revs rise, and by being in the right gear, means you get no smoke.

sat at 45mph on the motorway for 25miles, then standing on the throttle to get past a car, when still in 6th, covers the car behind in soot. dropping to 4th, and correct application of the loud pedal gets power without smoke. But means steering the gear stick.

Auto, kickdown, no issue.
 
Just go into tuning your car with your eyes open. Once you have piad, no matter how much it is very easy for your car to feel faster. Seriosously, no dout about it. Much like having alouder exhaust. Car normally tells your senses it's faster!

Make sure you have a method of detmining the difference in power IF you want to be sure of the power increase. There aother ways, perhaps a log of how much air the MAF is flowing, but normally that would be a before and after dyno run. Even then make sure you know what you are looking at.
 
Graham is spot on about tuning. Both of us (on several cars) have done loads of mods/tuning and probably had a dozen different dyno runs between us. It's not that chipping dosen't do anything at all it's just that when you part company with £200-£1000to tune your car, you are going believe it's faster when in actual fact it might just have a quicker throttle response and a higher redline making it feel more "revvy". Caveat Emptor!
 
I'm not being negative about tuning, just I have been burnt and suspect there are many out there that have and don't know it. I'm not the only one who has had a bad expereince of remaps, that I know.

Just to show I'm not biased, my current turbo car runs 25% more power than it did originally.
 
I'm not being negative about tuning, just I have been burnt and suspect there are many out there that have and don't know it. I'm not the only one who has had a bad expereince of remaps, that I know.

Just to show I'm not biased, my current turbo car runs 25% more power than it did originally.

I Dynoed mine after the remap and it gave a positive increase, always a good idea to before & after dyno test though.
 
DMS my SLK55AMG.

noticeable difference to all out power and the delivery too. Merc state the standard 0-60 of this car is 4.9secs.

Even with the added wieght of Pammy, and a bit of traction issues, it was getting 4.8secs. would have guesstimated it would have done it 4.3 to 4.5secs given good traction.

recorded 164mph at bruntingthorpe. I assume it would have acheived more if it had a longer straight line.

No difference in MPG either way. That purely depended on how you drove at the time.


The car had more midrange power and you could feel it.

Would you say it was worth it then? Considering getting the C55 done too
 
I've had a DMS remap done on the BMW and on the dyno saw an increase of over 40bhp. Its made a big difference to the way the car drives.
 
I've chipped 2 MB CDIs previously and ended up with 2 new gearbox builds shortly afterwards..... (ie a few hours :D)

I know alot of people chip their cars, the power benefits on a diesel are significant, but come with long term downsides if the power is used on a regular basis.

I enjoy driving my cars hence the reason to chip them, but i would not recommend it to anyone with over 60k on their vehicles.

Long term probs on CDIs inc leaking injectors and excessive smoking.

Petrol cars non aspirated are a waste of time being chipped, others are a hit and miss.

My current CDI has an ECO chip fitted, apparently for MPG benefits. Small power increase and a small increase in economy but an intact gearbox!
 
A tuner should be taking torque limitations of gearboxes into consideration and a good one can limit it.
 
I thought about having the GL chipped ( Brabus) and did a bit of research which led me to believe that the torque increase would take it to a level that was marginal for the gearbox.

IIRC it would have taken it beyond the continuous rating.

I think it's important to look at the specification of the entire drivetrain to see if any componet is being overloaded.

In many cases I suspect there will be no problem. E.g. a Brabus upgrade on a 320 gl will be fine as the outputs are lower than the standard 420 and the transmission is the same.
 
I had the Brabus D6 fitted to my 320CDi - improved the mpg by 1or2 and the torque is savage. The CLS is a big heavy car though so it is deceptive as it is still so smooth.

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