Anyone see 'Whistleblowers' on BBC1 last night?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4596907.stm

It was an undercover expose regarding London based carpark attendants.

I only caught the last 20 mins of the show. My jaw dropped at the parking attendant (aka rough old geezer) who wanted to steal the motorcycle as it was left for a couple of days. :crazy: His rantings and paranoia of others was totally amazing and all because the legal owner decided he wanted his motorbike back. Truly surprising what nasty pieces of work hide behind the mask of authority.

S.
 
The little shed next to the casino made me giggle - a bit one sided that deal!
 
Steve_Perry said:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/4596907.stm
My jaw dropped at the parking attendant (aka rough old geezer) who wanted to steal the motorcycle as it was left for a couple of days. :crazy: His rantings and paranoia of others was totally amazing and all because the legal owner decided he wanted his motorbike back.

He seemed really annoyed that the bike went missing! Whats worrying is that what he was doing seemed perferctly normal to the others he worked with. I wonder how many traffic wardens have been battered today as a result of that show? :rolleyes:
 
Mambo said:
I wonder how many traffic wardens have been battered today as a result of that show? :rolleyes:


Not nearly enough !! :devil:
 
Howard said:
Not nearly enough !! :devil:

I couldn't possibly condone that sort of behaviour :rolleyes:
 
I saw it - an eye opener.

Will certainly try asking wardens for a rate on settling a ticket in future - maybe they will be in on the credit card fraud too!
 
Also did anyone see something on insurance claims around 7ish (was flicking so not sure) but a stupid kid had crashed his xr3i escort. Claimed it wasnt his fault when the insurance blamed him and went off on a moral highground speech about how he doesnt speed/drive dangerously as he loves his cars. Fair enough. But then the moran spent the rest of the shoe saying he needed a replacement that was small and nippy, and something that was faster than everyone else's car on the road...and then to shed his barry image he bought an old 205gti which he planned to 'do up'

final shot? him driving away with a wheelspin and a big sports exhaust making a load of noise at full pelt.

:eek:
 
Mambo said:
He seemed really annoyed that the bike went missing! Whats worrying is that what he was doing seemed perferctly normal to the others he worked with. I wonder how many traffic wardens have been battered today as a result of that show? :rolleyes:

Yes and he made some derogataory comment about thieves who might steal "his" bike.

I think the programme showed some extremely worrying examples of what I would refer to as "institutional corrruption". It seems that if you are on p!ss poor wages and the only way you can keep your job is to issue tickets "not in accordance with the rules", then issue them you do. At least one brave Parking Attendant said to her colleague that he was being unfair to the motorist. We were not told if she was still in employment, though we were told that the City Fixer was!

If 10 tickets a day (the "benchmark") is an unrealistic target for honest PA's, then one has to ask oneself who is setting the culture??

Oh, I forgot, it's the Local Authorities who let these contracts.

Silly me.
 
It gets worse. In some places CCTV is now being used to monitor roads and parking tickets are being issued off the back of this "evidence". The amounts involved are huge

See below:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/londonnews/articles/19038358?source=Evening Standard

It is a vicious circle. Motorists getting far more cautious after being stuffed for a few tickets and so it gets more and difficult for the Wardens to find victims. So they stretch the rules to meet their quotas which just upsets everybody except the Local Authorities who clearly have little motivation now other than to squeeze cash out of motorists.
 
Satch said:
It gets worse. In some places CCTV is now being used to monitor roads and parking tickets are being issued off the back of this "evidence". The amounts involved are huge

See below:

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/londonnews/articles/19038358?source=Evening Standard

It is a vicious circle. Motorists getting far more cautious after being stuffed for a few tickets and so it gets more and difficult for the Wardens to find victims. So they stretch the rules to meet their quotas which just upsets everybody except the Local Authorities who clearly have little motivation now other than to squeeze cash out of motorists.

Silly question this I know, but who actually paid for these roads? We should take follow the French & Dutch and vote Non/Nein

I have honestly had four tickets which were wrong. On one occasion the PA had not issued the ticket so I vamoosed, he later swore that he had placed it on the car. No way. Another was issued when lines had been obscured. Another issued when I returned to my car with 1 min to go & the PA was 300yds away, another when I was 2" over the bay because of the next car. It really is HIGHWAY ROBBERY!!!
 
There really really needs to be some mass action about all this pretty soon as its all getting way out of hand.
 
Out of interest... does anyone feel this problem with PA's will be resolved if the power to issue tickets etc was handed back to the police?

I seem to think that one of the main problems with this particular system is that, at the end of the day.. the companies are out to issue X number ot tickets to meet targets.. and so set about telling the PA's to issue X number of tickets.. and in the end..its all about targets, and making money.

The guy from the PA company was on BBC London this morning.. and when asked how much the company makes per annum.. he said, "about £20 million pounds profit" :eek: That seems like an awful lot of money to me! :crazy:

Incidentally, i missed the program.. but i think i've had my fair share with PA's for one week... now busy with appealing for these a$$***** .. pardon my french :mad:
 
Madferrit said:
Out of interest... does anyone feel this problem with PA's will be resolved if the power to issue tickets etc was handed back to the police?

I do. I think the Police would cost more (ie the fines would go up) but they would be fairer and go by the book (ie reduce revenue). They would probably even be flexible when it comes to "traffic flow" (unless of course they too are hit with the "target or job" culture. I have a few police friends though, & they tell me they wouldn't really want to do it. How about going back to the situation when I think they were managed by the police? Every change is cost driven. That is, it costs us more and them less!!!!
 
Perhaps it can be part of the Community Support Officers role. That way they'll always be visible in the community and they'll be able to assist other matters without the need to write reports all day which a regular officer would have to do. It may be a good way to give an incentive to the CSO's that will form a base of training for those who wish to move up to be regualr PC's.
 
Perhaps it can be part of the Community Support Officers role. That way they'll always be visible in the community and they'll be able to assist other matters without the need to write reports all day which a regular officer would have to do. It may be a good way to give an incentive to the CSO's that will form a base of training for those who wish to move up to be regualr PC's.

Sensible suggestion, you clearly have no future in Politics. :eek:
 
As if things were not bad enough. Finding it harder to catch people for parking offences so need another source of revenue. So some bright spark says: I know! Let us pretend to care about the environment!

Ignore the fact that the amount of fuel a car at idle consumes is very small (three hours to the gallon or so) and watch the money roll in!

London "pollution wardens" to clampdown on emissions

London councils are to instigate "pollution wardens" to enforce emissions laws, following a successful pilot scheme in Croydon.

Drivers in London will face on-the-spot fines from the new wardens if they are caught with engines running at the roadside, the Evening Standard reported. So far, motorists have only received warnings, but these are set to become £40 fines, reduced to £20 for prompt payment.

Croydon says that the scheme has cut kerbside pollution and noise in the borough and that it is welcomed by pedestrians and residents near busy roads.

The Association of London Government has said that other boroughs were considering implementing the scheme.

Stephen Potter, Croydon's pollution team manager, said: "We have an enormous problem with pollution in London and this is one element of unnecessary emissions we are dealing with.

"Most drivers welcome the advice and say they did not know they were breaking the law," he explained.

The clampdown is also directed at buses parked at bus stands. The percentage of buses parked with their engines running stood at a third last year but with the new measures has seen a marked improvement.
 
ha ha... probably a good thing too!
 
I have a client who lives in the apartments opposite the casino, as the doormen said it's been going on for years and it will continue, scratching backs comes to mind.

Peter.
 
Did anyone get the gist of this 5 minutes to 'print a ticket' - I assume this means that if you arrive withing 5 minutes of the PA you can just go?

Also - I know its naive but the problem is 'targets' - it isnt about ensuring cars are parked ok etc etc its about making an income from catching people out - outsourced companies see parking as a fantastic income stream and whilst that is the case little will change.
 

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