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Shude said:It's meaningless.
Until someone actually defines "reliability" the results will always be rubbish. Ford starts first time and it's "perfect", Mercedes has a quirky menu option on the stereo and it's a "lemon".
We need a survey to work out how reliable these surveys are!
andy_k said:many years ago a Mercedes cost the same as a house whilst a Ford was a car for the people. These days you can buy a Merc for the same money as a Mondeo, somebody has dropped their standards - why should we be surprised the cars aren't as good as they used to be. If they were most of us wouldn't be able to afford one.
Andy
PJH said:Perhaps a survey of cars that have done over 200,000 miles.
All the Fords/others would have been scrapped and the Mercs would still be having repairs 'cos their owners love them and they're still worth repairing.
Shude said:It's meaningless.
Until someone actually defines "reliability" the results will always be rubbish. Ford starts first time and it's "perfect", Mercedes has a quirky menu option on the stereo and it's a "lemon".
We need a survey to work out how reliable these surveys are!
Glideman said:An unreliable car is one which breaks down a lot, does'nt matter who makes it. I wont repair a car past it's useful, economic life, whats the point? When people get emotional about peices of metal it costs more money then they're worth.
prprandall51 said:Hear! Hear! What is so incredible is that respected organisations such as Which and JD Power base their surveys on incomparable data.
As far as I am aware, there is no official, reliable data on the subject of genuine reliability.
In the old days, we could rely on the AA or RAC for this information because they saw real reliability - or lack of it - since nobody called the RAC out if the seat massager failed to come on one morning, only if the fan belt snapped. But with manufacturers now offering their own breakdown packages with new cars, this valuable source of information has dried up.
A major, quality car manufacturer recently told me that they were "over the moon" bacause they saw only 40% of their new cars back in the service department in Year 1 - they said that was an outstanding achievement because hardly a single car had actually broken down. With such contrasting statistics (40% of cars returned but none broken down) it is impossible to compare a Kia with a Rolls Royce (no, it wasn't Rolls Royce..).
Philip
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