Bang & Olufsen Products

[C240Sport97]

Anyone here has the BeoVision 7 TV?

The Beolab 3 speakers?

How do you 'justify' the purchase price?

Did you get a discount?

Thanks!

 

[miro]

Anyone here has the BeoVision 7 TV?

The Beolab 3 speakers?

How do you 'justify' the purchase price?

Did you get a discount?

Thanks!

Anything costing more than Linn Audio has to be defective marketing gone crazy.

 

[Flyer]

Anyone here has the BeoVision 7 TV?

The Beolab 3 speakers?

How do you 'justify' the purchase price?

Did you get a discount?

Thanks!

Not got the BV7 or BL3s, but have lots of other B&O kit.

You either "get" B&O, or you don't. Simple as. Those who don't will say it's overpriced designer ... yada, yada (yawn).

Those who do will see it for what it is; beautifully designed with wonderful sound and vision (but not the best), and nearly all the kit can be inter-connected (watch and control a video/DVD playing in the lounge, in the bedroom). B&O works for me. My main kit is 6 years old now, but looks and sounds as new.

No discounts for me, but I do always get the extended warranties, which can cost hundreds of pounds for each piece of equipment, included free. Needed it recently when the tube in my TV went; the invoice was for more than £1,000.

I'm sure Mobeyone will be along shortly as he knows a lot more about B&O and posts regularly on beoworld.co.uk.

Have you had a demo of the BeoLab 5s? They look, err... a bit different ( ), but the sound is absolutely astounding. Trifle expensive though

 

[jeremytaylor]

I can't 'get' the prices /quality for B&O TVs/hi-fi. We bought a Bose 10 years ago - far supperior sound (IMHO) but for about half the price.

However, I can recommend the B&O Dect cordless phone (can't remember the name of it). Yes it's more expensive than other Dect phones but it has a real quality to its buttons, easy intuitive menu, nice to cradle under the ear, etc. Well worth it.

 

[Lazarus]

I agree with flyer, B&O is a bit of a love or hate thing, I don't have either of the models you mentioned, but also have a lot of B&O in the house, I'm slowly replacing everything with B&O to end up with an integrated system.

I tend to buy my kit on eBay, as it's significantly cheaper, every time I sell a piece of kit, I replace it with something B&O...

Laz.
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[SportsCoupeRich]

i like it a lot but find that the form over function usp is being considerably narrowed by other manufacturers. i am currently planning my new system (if anyone owns a home cinema shop around london pm me!) and wont go B&O, but probably projector based running through hiden rotel systems and then some expensive 'form' designed speakers.

 

[gary350]

I know that many years ago B&0 were Phillips based any idea what is used now.

gary

 

[SEM]

Did i hear right, that there is a waiting list for the BeoVision 7 TV?, because it's so popular.
How it's made featured it on SKY.... they put it in a fridge to -40 then switched it on.. even the packaging went through special testing

 

[miro]

Did i hear right, that there is a waiting list for the BeoVision 7 TV?, because it's so popular.
How it's made featured it on SKY.... they put it in a fridge to -40 then switched it on.. even the packaging went through special testing

They want to thaw them good and proper before sending them in the freezer bag approved boxes. I dont suppose you get some mint pies with that ?

 

[C240Sport97]

I get B&O, love the stuff, and have been wondering whether it's worth it for longer than I would like to admit.

I have concluded that you cannot justify the cost unless you ignore the cost.

There is nothing on the market that looks like or is as well made (I mean the external appearance -- the single piece of glass for the front, the aluminium frame and integrated DVD player) or as beautifully designed as the BeoVision 7. I have tried to find something like it, but there isn't. On those parameters, it has the market to itself, and that's maybe why they get away with charging those prices.

The Beolab 3 speakers are unique in its size, music quality and design.

Of course, you can also choose from 5 or 6 colours, with a variety of stands. The flexibility you get for making the equipment part of your living room is just unparalleled.

I think of it as furniture which also provides pictures and sound.

They are now also now offering a 4 year warranty as standard.

 

[miro]

I get B&O, love the stuff, and have been wondering whether it's worth it for longer than I would like to admit.

I have concluded that you cannot justify the cost unless you ignore the cost.

There is nothing on the market that looks like or is as well made (I mean the external appearance -- the single piece of glass for the front, the aluminium frame and integrated DVD player) or as beautifully designed as the BeoVision 7. I have tried to find something like it, but there isn't. On those parameters, it has the market to itself, and that's maybe why they get away with charging those prices.

The Beolab 3 speakers are unique in its size, music quality and design.

Of course, you can also choose from 5 or 6 colours, with a variety of stands. The flexibility you get for making the equipment part of your living room is just unparalleled.

I think of it as furniture which also provides pictures and sound.

They are now also now offering a 4 year warranty as standard.

Have you never heard a LINN system ?

 

[C240Sport97]

yes, I have seen LINN ...

But they don't make TVs, do they?

Plus, looks wise, they don't do it for me.

Have you never heard a LINN system ?

 

[SEM]

They want to thaw them good and proper before sending them in the freezer bag approved boxes. I dont suppose you get some mint pies with that ?

Oops wrong -25 not -40
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/web2/competences/competences.asp?section=competences&sub=pt&page=pJ

 

[miro]

Oops wrong -25 not -40
http://www.bang-olufsen.com/web2/competences/competences.asp?section=competences&sub=pt&page=pJ

Its like buying an orange peeler where they go into great detail about the polymer construction and the UV stable dyes.

Seriously .... your ears should be deciding and not your wallet.

 

[miro]

yes, I have seen LINN ...

But they don't make TVs, do they?

Plus, looks wise, they don't do it for me.

You must taste sound and hear colours. Sounds like LSD to me ! I dont buy into the whole Viagra-esque impressions of what electronics must look like.

I hide mine in a bookshelf 3 rooms away from the TV and bounce the IR signals through the COAX cable using channel plus. All you see is the 200 pound TV I bought used for 90% off.

Most people find the minimalist and clean look of the room quite refreshing. I hang art where the "crap" would normally cause clutter.

 

[SEM]

True, point taken.. and it's quality should speak for itself. Not like most of todays throw away black goods.

 

[C240Sport97]

it's not just the look, it's the feel as well

what is it you hide 3 rooms away from the TV?

You must taste sound and hear colours. Sounds like LSD to me ! I dont buy into the whole Viagra-esque impressions of what electronics must look like.

I hide mine in a bookshelf 3 rooms away from the TV and bounce the IR signals through the COAX cable using channel plus. All you see is the 200 pound TV I bought used for 90% off.

Most people find the minimalist and clean look of the room quite refreshing. I hang art where the "crap" would normally cause clutter.

 

[Lazarus]

The only element that is unlikely to be B&O in my final system will be a good quality power amplifier, perhaps an Arcam or similar.

My (current) finalised system will be as follows:

MX4000 21" TV (upgrading to MX7000 or BeoVision Avant when funds allow)
RL2000 speakers (AV front stereo pair)
CD50 CD player
BeoLab Penta speakers (musci stereo pair)
Arcam or Musical Fidelity Power amplifier?
BeoCom 6000 x 2
BeoLab 2000
Not sure about surround or sub unit

Laz.
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[miro]

it's not just the look, it's the feel as well

what is it you hide 3 rooms away from the TV?

I have 6 TV outlets and 2 TV's. Sometimes I plug my PC into a coax and get some TV on my LCD. Since I prewired the house for everything and installed a lighting solution as well as alarm panel interaction I decided to put away all the wires and clutter into a space where it wouldnt be missed.

I rip all my DVD's into a MP4 player at 1:1 or compressed quality and can have limitless AIFF quality CD tracks from my CD collection.

When you evaluate what you are buying from a lifestyle point of view it's usually the person that doesnt have to vacuum all the cables who decides that everything with a blue LED must be clearly in plain view somewhere near the TV.

The person that has to trip over, clean, fish out the dead insects and hope they know where the lead came out of decides where things go then it tends to look a lot more streamlined and clutter free.

Unless you are building a concrete pillar from the soil to the floor under the speaker then extreme spends dont compensate for what is truly a compromise design. IMHO TV cabinets alter the very sound they are pretending to assist. The loss / win ratio become implausible unless the room itself is being thought out carefully.

I have been looking at Behringer amplifiers and various Rotel gear and find that the hype has been taken out of audio for those people willing to scratch the surface.

If on the other hand you lust for design but live in clutter ... then one really needs to look at a B&O catalogue very closely to realise that clutter free is the true B&O style. Every B&O showroom I have ever stepped into is a paragon of minimalism (bar the ones I have never seen).

I took note of that in my early 20's and I have aspired to that ever since. My IKEA stores all of the really good stuff where everyone can use it in any room.

 

[C240Sport97]

some of us have far less living space and prewiring ability/capability

I have 6 TV outlets and 2 TV's. Sometimes I plug my PC into a coax and get some TV on my LCD. Since I prewired the house for everything and installed a lighting solution as well as alarm panel interaction I decided to put away all the wires and clutter into a space where it wouldnt be missed.

I rip all my DVD's into a MP4 player at 1:1 or compressed quality and can have limitless AIFF quality CD tracks from my CD collection.

When you evaluate what you are buying from a lifestyle point of view it's usually the person that doesnt have to vacuum all the cables who decides that everything with a blue LED must be clearly in plain view somewhere near the TV.

The person that has to trip over, clean, fish out the dead insects and hope they know where the lead came out of decides where things go then it tends to look a lot more streamlined and clutter free.

Unless you are building a concrete pillar from the soil to the floor under the speaker then extreme spends dont compensate for what is truly a compromise design. IMHO TV cabinets alter the very sound they are pretending to assist. The loss / win ratio become implausible unless the room itself is being thought out carefully.

I have been looking at Behringer amplifiers and various Rotel gear and find that the hype has been taken out of audio for those people willing to scratch the surface.

If on the other hand you lust for design but live in clutter ... then one really needs to look at a B&O catalogue very closely to realise that clutter free is the true B&O style. Every B&O showroom I have ever stepped into is a paragon of minimalism (bar the ones I have never seen).

I took note of that in my early 20's and I have aspired to that ever since. My IKEA stores all of the really good stuff where everyone can use it in any room.