BBC Top Gear. Complaints after Stig shooting.

[snoop51]

Watched his TV show, do we really need N***** and P*** jokes? Thought we left that behind in the 70s. I don't think he is a racist, but that kind of language is taking it too far

Is he another Roy "Chubby" Brown then? He got a Police escort out of Bradford a few weeks after the Bradford City F.C. fire. His Merc got trashed apparently, he made some bad taste remark about "not being invited to the BBQ" It didn't go down too well at the time, probably wouldn't now either!

Just an ignorant foul-mouthed a*rehole IMHO. Some apparently find him funny though, can't understand it myself.

 

[Dryce]

I don't think he is a racist, but that kind of language is taking it too far

Depends on context as you imply.

But I also think that these days the so called do gooders are way too sensitive to language. And a lot of the criticism is simply parotted without thought by the PC self-righteous.

 

[LTD]

Depends on context as you imply.

But I also think that these days the so called do gooders are way too sensitive to language. And a lot of the criticism is simply parotted without thought by the PC self-righteous.

Right, that's it - I'm off to complain to the RSPCB for that slur against parrots

 

[lancebond]

Is he another Roy "Chubby" Brown then? He got a Police escort out of Bradford a few weeks after the Bradford City F.C. fire. His Merc got trashed apparently, he made some bad taste remark about "not being invited to the BBQ" It didn't go down too well at the time, probably wouldn't now either!

Just an ignorant foul-mouthed a*rehole IMHO. Some apparently find him funny though, can't understand it myself.

i've worked with roy a few times over the last few years, and i can honestly say a nicer man there isn't. off stage he's a well spoken, well educated man. on stage he plays a part.

at a gig in thornaby he had come down to hve photos taken, sign autographs and generally get the attendance for a charity gig up.

he then proceeded to do 10 minutes on stage, and compered the night, this is a lad who has only one working vocal chord and has to steam them before any sort of performance, something that apparently isn't pleasant.

i was the first act on after his opening, and the crowd were still in a heckling mood after chubby wound them up and started on me, chubby on hearing them came on stage and ripped the lad apart.. then told the audience it's ok to heckle him, but we're proper singers and deserve some respect.

my mam was with me that night, and has NEVER liked his material she was introduced and in typical cringeworthy fashion told him...

he asked what she didn't like. "the swearing mr. brown, it's needless and doesn't add anything to your jokes" she replied

he then proceeded to tell us about his attempt at NOT swearing on stage, so he would get more TV work (parkinson had apparently wanted him, but needed assurances he would change his act) he managed four gigs... never finished one of them.

frankie boyle, bernard manning, chubby brown, denis leary etc etc

you KNOW what they are like, they WARN you what they are like on tickets and DVD covers... for every person who says there is no need for that comedy, i can show you a room full of people that will PAY for it.

 

[corned]

Now, now, Ben Collins can tell you the colour of the (Reserve, admittedly) boat house at Hereford and is probably delighted at the publicity.

He was one of <whisper>'them'</whisper>?

 

[MOCAŠ]

Depends on context as you imply.

But I also think that these days the so called do gooders are way too sensitive to language. And a lot of the criticism is simply parotted without thought by the PC self-righteous.

Channel 4's standard response was to point out that Boyle was satirising those who hold racist views.

Personally, I think he will just say anything to provoke a reaction from his audience (and to generate some press publicity, of course), and then use the 'freedom of speech'/'nothing should be taboo' argument to deflect any criticism. It's telling that those who go to see him perform seem to be drawn from the socio-economic groups that Keith Joseph, speaking some 35 years ago (as referenced in another thread), suggested should not be given free rein to procreate...

How do I know? Well, I made a point of watching a few episodes of Tramadol Nights on 4oD to see what the fuss was about, and Boyle's use of the N* and P* words seemed much less offensive when taken in context. There is even a little-heard argument that these words would, in time, be defused if they were used in general speech, and would thereby lose their power to offend.

Other elements of the shows, particularly the sketches, seemed to be designed to extract the maximum shock value, yet weren't really shocking at all because it's pretty much what you expect Boyle to deliver.

However, if this was supposed to be a comedy routine, then for me it failed as I sat through it from start to finish without finding much, if anything, to laugh at. I was certainly glad I hadn't paid any money for the experience.

 

[lancebond]

He was one of <whisper>'them'</whisper>?

<whisper>Only on a weekend</whisper>

 

[Dryce]

However, if this was supposed to be a comedy routine, then for me it failed as I sat through it from start to finish without finding much, if anything, to laugh at. I was certainly glad I hadn't paid any money for the experience.

Pretty much sums it up IMO.

 

[MOCAŠ]

He was one of <whisper>'them'</whisper>?

I'm surprised JC didn't use him as the 'Andy McNab' substitute when testing the Jaguar X Type estate...

 

[Beetnik]

Just watched (part of) Episode 2, the trip to Bethlehem. Mindnumbingly boring (which is why only part watched) but 3 other family members watched it all the way through. Unanimously voted the most boring episode of TG ever. :-(

 

[Dryce]

Just watched (part of) Episode 2, the trip to Bethlehem. Mindnumbingly boring (which is why only part watched) but 3 other family members watched it all the way through. Unanimously voted the most boring episode of TG ever. :-(

It wasn't the most boring episode. I've instantaneously forgotten a couple of particularly dire episodes from the last two seasons.

I think it rates somewhere in the middle - saved by the critical factual aspect whereby we now know that a bullet may fragment as it passes through a MX5.

But, more sadly, measured by the standards of modern Christmas TV it was top class.

 

[lancebond]

it wasn't bad, it wasn't great.

the trip on scooters in the far east, that was class. the bit with the robin reliant from the last series, as scripted as it was had me crying with laughter the first time round.

problem is they have to top these every time... and once you've sent a robin reliant into space(or at least tried), well it's hard to top

 

[MOCAŠ]

the bit with the robin reliant from the last series, as scripted as it was had me crying with laughter the first time round.

Wasn't that just a rip-off of the punchline to this Mr Bean episode?

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Watch out for the W124 as well...

 

[snoop51]

i've worked with roy a few times over the last few years, and i can honestly say a nicer man there isn't. off stage he's a well spoken, well educated man. on stage he plays a part.

at a gig in thornaby he had come down to hve photos taken, sign autographs and generally get the attendance for a charity gig up.

he then proceeded to do 10 minutes on stage, and compered the night, this is a lad who has only one working vocal chord and has to steam them before any sort of performance, something that apparently isn't pleasant.

i was the first act on after his opening, and the crowd were still in a heckling mood after chubby wound them up and started on me, chubby on hearing them came on stage and ripped the lad apart.. then told the audience it's ok to heckle him, but we're proper singers and deserve some respect.

my mam was with me that night, and has NEVER liked his material she was introduced and in typical cringeworthy fashion told him...

he asked what she didn't like. "the swearing mr. brown, it's needless and doesn't add anything to your jokes" she replied

he then proceeded to tell us about his attempt at NOT swearing on stage, so he would get more TV work (parkinson had apparently wanted him, but needed assurances he would change his act) he managed four gigs... never finished one of them.

frankie boyle, bernard manning, chubby brown, denis leary etc etc

you KNOW what they are like, they WARN you what they are like on tickets and DVD covers... for every person who says there is no need for that comedy, i can show you a room full of people that will PAY for it.

Thanks for the insight into the man rather than the character. Much appreciated. The character does take it too far in some cases i.e. the Bradford BBQ reference in my first post.

I never said there was or wasn't a need for such "comedy" it does beg the question of is that why it is acceptable to swear so much in today's society though. I don't remember the 2 Ronnie's or Morecambe & Wise being boring yet they didn't swear, still some of the funniest sketches ever IMHO. Remember F.U.N.E.X.

 

[lancebond]

Wasn't that just a rip-off of the punchline to this Mr Bean episode?


Watch out for the W124 as well...

never watched it, can't stand blackadder being such a tool.

Thanks for the insight into the man rather than the character. Much appreciated. The character does take it too far in some cases i.e. the Bradford BBQ reference in my first post.

he's been paid off a few times i can tell you, my favourite story came from a concert chairman at a catholic club, they had roy on back in teh day when he was still a club entertainer. he came up on stage and saw the christ on the cross and said "i see you got the b******d who stole your telly"

that was it, off... cash in hand.

I don't remember the 2 Ronnie's or Morecambe & Wise being boring yet they didn't swear, still some of the funniest sketches ever IMHO. Remember F.U.N.E.X.

and yet one of the funniest jokes i've ever seen or heard is the aristocrats, which has it's own documentary, and is a test for comedians to see HOW filthy they can make it.

 

[rascalmaster]

Perhaps i digress folks, but i immigrated to this country 10 years ago.... Because it is the best place in the whole world to live!
having said that i do squirm uncomfortably sometimes at the levels of PC around...
My take on telly is; '' hey, if you don't like it; turn it off or swap channels?....''
But...
I have also seen the Frankie Boyle- Tramadol Nights.... and to be honest it is a lil sh*t@ and in rather poor taste... though i have found myself laughing a bit :-( sort of 'cringe laughing' and i think a lot of the audience seemed a lil uncomfortable as well...
lol

 

[lancebond]

Perhaps i digress folks, but i immigrated to this country 10 years ago.... Because it is the best place in the whole world to live!

i hate to disagree but i wouldn't put this in the top ten anymore.

hence my quest to move to canada or new zealand

it WAS, but sadly not anymore

 

[snoop51]

i hate to disagree but i wouldn't put this in the top ten anymore.

Hence my quest to move to canada or new zealand

it was, but sadly not anymore

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