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  1. Bri

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    Hi all just been reading all about the new driverless cars in todays paper and it set me wondering.........
    All the drivers that suffer with road rage and go round giving other drivers the vee /finger/or a good horn blowing, how will they react to a driverless car. also can such a car be in the wrong :confused:
     
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    Yep, one of THOSE !!!
    We will know when a driverless car knocks down a child.

    Computers are great until humans intervene in their processes.
     
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    Not a problem, according to Chuang Tzu (369-286 BC), who predicted this very situation some 2000 years ago:

    "If a man is crossing a river

    And an empty boat collides with his own skiff,

    Even though he be a bad-tempered man

    He will not become very angry.

    But if he sees a man in the boat,

    He will shout at him to steer clear.

    If the shout is not heard, he will shout again,

    And yet again, and begin cursing.

    And all because there is somebody in the boat.

    Yet if the boat were empty.

    He would not be shouting, and not angry."
     
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    Yep, one of THOSE !!!
    Just imagine any insurance claim....

    Were you the owner ? - yes
    Were you in the car ? - yes
    Were you driving the car ? - no
    Who was driving the car ? - Google / Apple / Skynet
    <sound of muffled gunshot>
     
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    Some drivers grow a little impatient behind me and are itching to overtake when my car is on 'auto pilot' at the legal limit.
     
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    In Kent they have been testing driverless cars for some years now. Take a drive down the M2 on most days and you will witness them careering around.

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    We have seven Swisslog LGV (Laser Guided Vehicles) in work that use radar , lasers and encoders to triangulate their position within the plant as they deliver rolls of paper to the presses .

    We also have a mountain of their various body panels that look like something from the demolition derby, they also have had their expensive "squeeze protection" ,that is located around their perimeter, ripped off on a regular basis.

    Give me a chap on a forklift anyday.

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    So what happens when the driverless car is negotiating a single track or narrow road which requires one party to give way or to mount the verge? Will the driverless car expect the human to do the honours?

    As for road rage, if the human driver doesn't get out of the way, will the driverless car ram the driven car knowing that it cannot be blamed?

    The beauty about a car driven by a human is that we can anticipate things that no computer can predict. Driving around a town presents its own problems, such as children running across the road unannounced, to footballs being kicked across the road from someone's garden, to pensioners expecting traffic to stop for them as they amble across the road.

    Also, where I live there is plenty of fowl, such as ducks, geese and herons, and we often have to slow down for these unexpected road users. Would a driverless car just plough through these fowl, or would it be programmed for patience?

    There is limited scope on our roads for driverless cars, especially in the more rural areas.

    I can't wait for these cars to arrive, and for the news stories to start coming in. I bet that the first wave of crashes get blamed on the humans until someone realises that computers cannot perceive some situations.
     
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    Driverless cars will still have 'Drivers'. The 'driver' will not be operating the controls though.
    Do you really think there will be millions of cars driving around with nobody in them?
     
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    What will happen when you go for a trip abroad? Will you get your driverless car to take you to the airport, then drive itself home and park itself on your drive.....?

    Also, Google want to have the controls removed altogether, so even if there's a person in the car, will he/she be able to intervene?
     
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    My friend is waiting in great anticipation for driverless cars as she cannot drive, nor intends to drive as she has no interest in driving (currently takes taxis and public transport) and wishes to be chauffeured robotically at some point in the future.

    I haven't seen prices for driverless cars but expect a very hefty premium for an *effective* system that has the ability to scan and map 360 degrees with lasers/radar/night vision with fortified navigational information such as bus lanes, disabled parking spaces, multi storey car park entry and exit points, ability to park in unmarked parking e.g at show events where humans direct you to park in a field, with enough computational power.

    I can't see it being completely driverless in the next few years only supportive of the driver with auto pilot in certain scenarios, with 'unexpected item in bagging area' messages when the computer can't work the situation out.
     
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    A few on here are running a pilot for partnerless sex.
     
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    But there is usually a computer involved, surely?
     
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    They would be handy for getting home from the pub though.
     
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    Been going on for years Bruce, think its called a hand....lol
     
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    Will it be able to read traffic lights and stop if there is no-one in front to enforce it's stopping system, and what about road works and diversions if it's linked to a sat nav.
     
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    I wonder if you will be able to get a re-map done on them 0 to 60 in 4 seconds 180 mph ?
    what about a re-map so they don't stop at a red light unless its been on red for 5 seconds or more, some drivers seem to have that all ready though.
    Last but not lest a re-map so they drive 2 foot from the car in fronts bumper just like you can in an AUDI or BMW. :D
    Don't worry iv been drinking :crazy:
     
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    I can see it now. A driverless car is in a collision with a driven car, and the local council decides that driverless cars can have a lane all to themselves, just like the bus companies have.

    Controls have become too intrusive. Sometimes when backing in to a parking bay, I like to open my driver's door just to check I am in line with the bay marking, but doing this puts my car in to 'Park'.
     
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    If a driverless car collides with another driverless car, whose insurer picked-up the bill....? Or perhaps the manufacturer does?
     
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