Bentley Ends V8 Production

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Bentley Has Built Its Last V8, Ending A 61-Year Production Run

Crewe's 6.75-litre V8 has now gone out of production, with the last example going into the final Mulsanne

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from

The Bentley Flying Spur Has Killed Off The Mulsanne

The Mulsanne is being discontinued, Bentley has confirmed, with the 6.75 Edition announced as the run-out special

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[BTB 500]

... although they will at least continue to use the Audi 4.0 V8.

 

[Deleted member 126969]

Bit like when Alfa stopped making the Busso V6 and used a warmed over GM unit instead (although clearly not as exotic!). The reason given was emissions. Same here perhaps, or just that VAG want to streamline?

 

[grober]

... although they will at least continue to use the Audi 4.0 V8.

That 4.0 90 degree V8 was evidently co-developed with Bentley and is an extremely sophisticated bit of kit featuring direct injection,cylinder deactivation , active engine mounts and twin scroll turbos.

Audi S8 520 hp 4.0 liter V8 TFSI engine front view - | EuroCar News

Audi S8 520 hp 4.0 liter V8 TFSI engine front view -

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Bit like when Alfa stopped making the Busso V6 and used a warmed over GM unit instead (although clearly not as exotic!). The reason given was emissions. Same here perhaps, or just that VAG want to streamline?

Possibly a bit of both. It seems to be fairly universal that manufacturers' larger capacity V8 engines [ often N/A] are being replaced by twin turboed more highly tuned smaller capacity, lighter V8s. The most recent innovation on smaller capacity 4/6 cylinder engines seems to be getting the secondary emissions equipment as close to/ integrated with the engine as possible to assist the crucial warm up characteristics giving very compact power plants- Older designs/dimensions of engines may not lend themselves to this leading to the rather sad conclusion their demise may be down to something as mundane as their packaging!

 

[KillerHERTZ]

Strange corporate image for Bentley, looks like a photo you would get in local paper "Youths keep dropping rubbish outside our houses"

 

[Petrol Pete]

Also an un labelled bottle of fluid on the floor, probably hydraulic fluid to top up the power pack it is sitting next to. That bottle should be clearly marked and in the COSHH cabinet boys. Mmmm, must do better.

Now hurry up and get that lump bolted in to a car so that I can dream of buying it !

 

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So , what happens if a customer blows his engine up and needs a replacement?

will they have spare units on the shelf , or will they build one of ?

 

[grober]

I doubt that the folks that buy these are troubled by such mundane matters. They have PAs for that sort of thing. I believe the engine factory will still manufacture the big VAG W12 configuration engine altho its days are probably numbered also?

 

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I doubt that the folks that buy these are troubled by such mundane matters. They have PAs for that sort of thing. I believe the engine factory will still manufacture the big VAG W12 configuration engine altho its days are probably numbered also?

I’d imagine such customers are the sort that if they were driving along in their very expensive car and it went bang , followed by a failure to proceed , they’d be straight on the phone and expect to be put through to the CEO of Bentley , who might even be a golfing buddy

While they might not soil their hands speaking to a socially incompatible motor trader , they would want it sorted - pronto .

No doubt the vehicle being uplifted in a covered recovery vehicle to avoid the shame and indignity .

At least not as bad for the dealer/manufacturer as experiencing the wrath of a wronged W100 owner , who would just send in a strike team to chastise whoever he blamed .

 

[Bellow]

Also an un labelled bottle of fluid on the floor, probably hydraulic fluid to top up the power pack it is sitting next to. That bottle should be clearly marked and in the COSHH cabinet boys. Mmmm, must do better.

It is an OilSafe jar and will very likely have a label on the reverse side as to its contents - or a tag on a lanyard (not visible). They seal closed when not in use so cannot spill if knocked over. Maybe it should be in a COSHH cabinet - maybe it was about to be used?
That they are using sealable, non-spill, spill free pouring OilSafe jars means they are doing a lot better than most.

 

[Bellow]

Possibly a bit of both. It seems to be fairly universal that manufacturers' larger capacity V8 engines [ often N/A] are being replaced by twin turboed more highly tuned smaller capacity, lighter V8s. The most recent innovation on smaller capacity 4/6 cylinder engines seems to be getting the secondary emissions equipment as close to/ integrated with the engine as possible to assist the crucial warm up characteristics giving very compact power plants- Older designs/dimensions of engines may not lend themselves to this leading to the rather sad conclusion their demise may be down to something as mundane as their packaging!

Isn't this down to the absurdity of the testing regime where (IMO) too much emphasis is given to warm up (and very laggardly acceleration rates) instead of fully warmed and driven harder - as occurs in the real world?
The costs associated with maintaining/working on such densely packed motors is I suspect negatively impacting on the necessary maintenance required for optimal emissions performance during ownership. The costs alone are more than an owner should have to tolerate.

 

[Petrol Pete]

It is an OilSafe jar and will very likely have a label on the reverse side as to its contents - or a tag on a lanyard (not visible). They seal closed when not in use so cannot spill if knocked over. Maybe it should be in a COSHH cabinet - maybe it was about to be used?
That they are using sealable, non-spill, spill free pouring OilSafe jars means they are doing a lot better than most.

Agreed, they are making us put stuff in a COSHH cabinet that most people can buy and keep under their kitchen sinks these days. my post was meant to be light hearted though. As an aside I have seen people get very close to being fired for leaving a bottle of fluid out just like the one in the picture.

 

[grober]

Isn't this down to the absurdity of the testing regime where (IMO) too much emphasis is given to warm up (and very laggardly acceleration rates) instead of fully warmed and driven harder - as occurs in the real world?

Alas that does not equate to the real world where the average UK car daily mileage is around 25-30 miles iirc - the implication being on a typical two way commuting trip a significant proportion of those miles will be in warm up mode--factor in idling in traffic and a situation arises thats far from optimum-hence perhaps the focus on warm up. Typical would be the fact that SCR SENSORS used in NOx reduction cant operate until the exhaust warms up as water vapour causes their rapid demise

The costs associated with maintaining/working on such densely packed motors is I suspect negatively impacting on the necessary maintenance required for optimal emissions performance during ownership. The costs alone are more than an owner should have to tolerate.

I agree that these newer engines are increasingly difficult to work on due to their"packaging" and some might say a lack of "robustness" of said secondary emission equipment whose longevity does not appear to match the basic mechanical components of the engine.

 

[Petrol Pete]

So , what happens if a customer blows his engine up and needs a replacement?

will they have spare units on the shelf , or will they build one of ?

I hear their is one brand nw M113 V8 engine still in stock at MB, I heard it had a 35 thousand Euro price tag on it. How true that is I do not know, but it is destined to collect dust as the M113 engine is very durable and there are loads of used ones out there for sale.

In my experience of car manufacturing the supplier had to be able to replace like for like 5 years after the car ceased production.

 

[grober]

Just heard this.

Bentley: Luxury carmaker to cut up to 1,000 jobs

The firm, which makes its luxury cars in Crewe, says up to 1,000 jobs will go.

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