Bye bye E class...Hello Lexus GS250

[Turbo1]

I sold my 2010 E class 350cdi.

I had a few misgivings with the engine and wasn’t terribly impressed with the performance (didn’t perform as well as a car with 231bhp and 398ft/lb on tap ought too), the refinement and general lack of reliability.

No cars perfect but in two years and 32k miles it had 3 services but 8 trips to the mechanic to sort out minor issues ranging from squeaking steering (small leak from the steering rack), diesel smells in cabin, engine rattles, engine misfires, engine warning lights, and clunks and bangs from the suspension. No other car I’ve had has had so much go wrong.

Nothing major broke on but given the issues I didn’t have a large degree of confidence in the build of the car. The pluses were the intelligent light system, styling and the fuel economy.

Ultimately I wanted the car to work, not cost £1000 plus every third month in repairs, not rattle (another indicator of a poor build) and be a less noisy car.

I tired of it and replaced it with a Lexus GS250. No rattles, barely slower, much more refined and all in all it’s a better car with seats that are more comfortable, more space inside the car, and it rides and takes the bends better. It’s more of a drivers car. The dealer could not have been better.




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[OneForTheRoad]

good luck with the lexus , the japs build good motors .

 

[clk320x]

Looks good enjoy

 

[Turbo1]

So far I’m enjoying it.

The controls for the nav and stereo are quite different to the Mercedes as is the petrol cap being on the other side but I’d recommend it to anyone considering a petrol engined mid size saloon.


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[WOODYTHEWISE]

I get a suspicion that you were not that enamoured with the Mercedes then.

 

[Turbo1]

I get a suspicion that you were not that enamoured with the Mercedes then.

No. I bought it on a whim to replace a Volvo S80 which in retrospect wasn’t a good idea. I nearly bought another S80 not long after but the deal wasn’t good. The Mercedes performance was another level compared to the Volvo and it was more refined (not by much) but truth be told the Volvo was a better car.

I couldn’t have afforded it but truth be told I’m holding out for a new S90. They’re a brilliant car and I cannot wait to buy one. I really like Volvos.

I never say never but I doubt I’d go for a Mercedes again.




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[DSM10000]

Is the Lexus a Hybrid?

 

[MercedesDriver]

No. I bought it on a whim to replace a Volvo S80 which in retrospect wasn’t a good idea. I nearly bought another S80 not long after but the deal wasn’t good. The Mercedes performance was another level compared to the Volvo and it was more refined (not by much) but truth be told the Volvo was a better car.

I couldn’t have afforded it but truth be told I’m holding out for a new S90. They’re a brilliant car and I cannot wait to buy one. I really like Volvos.

I never say never but I doubt I’d go for a Mercedes again.




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Some cars are good while some are just lemons. You’ve obviously got a car with a lot of issues and it’s fine if you feel it’s time to move on and never again go for a Mercedes.
The same feel I have for Volvos and Audis.
That Lexus GS looks nice btw.

 

[WOODYTHEWISE]

I must admit, in my opinion Volvo have come on leaps and bounds since I had one in the mid 80s.
Not driven a modern one but they certainly look the part.
I hope you find one to suit.

 

[jpwilliams]

I sold my 2010 E class 350cdi.

I had a few misgivings with the engine and wasn’t terribly impressed with the performance (didn’t perform as well as a car with 231bhp and 398ft/lb on tap ought too), the refinement and general lack of reliability.

No cars perfect but in two years and 32k miles it had 3 services but 8 trips to the mechanic to sort out minor issues ranging from squeaking steering (small leak from the steering rack), diesel smells in cabin, engine rattles, engine misfires, engine warning lights, and clunks and bangs from the suspension. No other car I’ve had has had so much go wrong.

Nothing major broke on but given the issues I didn’t have a large degree of confidence in the build of the car. The pluses were the intelligent light system, styling and the fuel economy.

Ultimately I wanted the car to work, not cost £1000 plus every third month in repairs, not rattle (another indicator of a poor build) and be a less noisy car.

I tired of it and replaced it with a Lexus GS250. No rattles, barely slower, much more refined and all in all it’s a better car with seats that are more comfortable, more space inside the car, and it rides and takes the bends better. It’s more of a drivers car. The dealer could not have been better.

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Had my GS 450h FOR 5 years now. Nothing has gone wrong or needed attention. Same brakes and pads. You will enjoy yours, but do not tell the whole world as everyone will want one !!

 

[Jimmas]

Very nice. Enjoy

 

[Turbo1]

Is the Lexus a Hybrid?

No.


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[Turbo1]

Some cars are good while some are just lemons. You’ve obviously got a car with a lot of issues and it’s fine if you feel it’s time to move on and never again go for a Mercedes.
The same feel I have for Volvos and Audis.
That Lexus GS looks nice btw.

Perhaps so. My uncle has owned a Mercedes S class and it’s been so much trouble he’s back in a bmw.

Multiple issues all relating to the engine (strangely different faults that my car had despite sharing an om642) and serious issues with the airmatic. The car was owned from new and was fine until 55k miles.

Rattles in the cabin too which for something that cost close to £90,000 is poor.

I just don’t think they’re as good as people say they are.


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[KennyN]

Picked up a BMW 440i this morning from Williams Manchester ,i was not enjoying owning the MB as i have had my fill of the inherent W219 / 211 issues and decided to jump ship to BMW.

The tech in the BM is fantastic as is the performance , gearbox and build quality ,FWIW it comes in second place to the CLS in the looks department though.

Averaged 36 mpg in the CLS on the way down and 48 on the way home, so much for economical diesels.

Only PITA is the price of the tax being a newer car.

Kenny

 

[Turbo1]

Picked up a BMW 440i this morning from Williams Manchester ,i was not enjoying owning the MB as i have had my fill of the inherent W219 / 211 issues and decided to jump ship to BMW.

The tech in the BM is fantastic as is the performance , gearbox and build quality ,FWIW it comes in second place to the CLS in the looks department though.

Averaged 36 mpg in the CLS on the way down and 48 on the way home, so much for economical diesels.

Only PITA is the price of the tax being a newer car.

Kenny

Truth be told I’d have loved a bmw with a petrol engine. They’re just such good cars. You’ll love it.


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[KennyN]

Truth be told I’d have loved a bmw with a petrol engine. They’re just such good cars. You’ll love it.

It is good to be back in a petrol car where you can here the exhaust note rather than the diesel "rattle" first thing in the morning.

For the money there was nothing that came anywhere near the , age / performance / looks / tech of the 4 series coupe.

S5 , too expensive for a 8 month old vehicle and a tad bland in the looks dept.

C43 , as above but better in the looks dept.

Golf R / Type R / S3 / Focus RS i felt were a bit too "young" for someone in their 50`s although they are probably great cars.

Kenny

 

[Turbo1]

Lexus update for those curious. The car on a run up the highlands returned this. Given the size and performance (moves along really well with a stirring soundtrack) it’s barely a fiver more to drive it from Glasgow up to Fort William and back than it was in the Mercedes. I wasn’t even trying for economy driving at the posted NSL and using full throttle to thunder past slower vehicles.




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[Turbo1]

Further update. It seems to barely use any more fuel than the 3 litre ex diesel Mercedes. I wasn’t dawdling at 40mph but doing 60 and 70 in the relevant limits and to get 37mpg seems good going when on the same run I’d get 44mpg from the diesel.

It has a little instant readout similar to the Mercedes and it spends most of the time on the 40mpg mark which bodes well for a long motorway haul to Spain which I’ll be doing later this year.

It’s good being in a petrol car again. Instant hot air out the heating which is handy as it was 4c when I left the house this morning.

The refinement is another level compared to the diesel Mercedes and the noise when giving it the beans stirrs the soul. I never tried a petrol E class (couldn’t find one for sale) and although I feel this is a superior car I’m sad I never sampled the E class with an engine worthy of the car.


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[Deleted member 6183]

I know of at least one other member who can testify.

The last few cars that I have owned all average 38mpg whether 3 litre petrol, 3 litre diesel or 2 litre petrol. All the same average MPG over a number of trips including some motorway and inner city driving.