brucemillar
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My X5 (E53 - 4.8is) had a front drive shaft fail at the outer (hub) CV joint. This is a fairly common part and is considered maintenance. A few weeks previously the passenger side failed and was replaced in less than 30 minutes. Unfortunately we had to wait on a replacement drivers side part to be sourced, so could not do both at the same time.
I called up my "usual" Mobile Mechanic, who I am rather dependent on, since I got sick. We agreed that he would replace the entire shaft (Hub to Diff). A new shaft arrived (£80+) and we were ready to go.
Two hours later my mechanic tells me that he cannot get the old shaft out of the diff? It is held in place by a "Slip Ring" and is removed by brute force which compresses the ring inside the diff.
No amount of force will release it and we are stuck (literally) with the shaft in the diff.
To date we have tried:
I spoke to my friendly guy in the local BMW place. he tells me that this is a known issue and our order of removal almost mirrors theirs.
They do not have a specific tools but use whatever they can make up when it is required.
He did say he has never seen a diff break doing this??
He suggested:
I have attached a couple of pics of the bracket my chap made up for your perusal.
I am thinking that hiring a "Hydraulic"puller may do the job? Has anybody got any experience of these beasts. Please bear in mind that breaking the diff casing is not an option due to cost (£4k)
Whatever we do, we do not want to break anything if at all possible.
My other option is, bite the bullet and drive the car (I am told it can be driven gently) to my local BMW independent and pay them. They will not be cheap, but I need my car back. I spoke with them (above) and they are none to happy, as we have already played with it.
Oh. Leaving the diff end of the shaft in situ and attaching a new outer is not an option as my guy drilled holes in the inner end, so it will be weakened now?
Any help, as always is greatly received and appreciated.
Bruce
My X5 (E53 - 4.8is) had a front drive shaft fail at the outer (hub) CV joint. This is a fairly common part and is considered maintenance. A few weeks previously the passenger side failed and was replaced in less than 30 minutes. Unfortunately we had to wait on a replacement drivers side part to be sourced, so could not do both at the same time.
I called up my "usual" Mobile Mechanic, who I am rather dependent on, since I got sick. We agreed that he would replace the entire shaft (Hub to Diff). A new shaft arrived (£80+) and we were ready to go.
Two hours later my mechanic tells me that he cannot get the old shaft out of the diff? It is held in place by a "Slip Ring" and is removed by brute force which compresses the ring inside the diff.
No amount of force will release it and we are stuck (literally) with the shaft in the diff.
To date we have tried:
- A pry bar between the shaft and the diff casing.
- A large hammer to the shaft knocking it away from the diff casing (trying not to damage to damage or break the diff)
- A Slide Hammer on the hub end of the shaft.
- Fabricating a bracket that screws into two drilled holes, that my guy put into the shaft and inserted bolts to attach the slide hammer to. This just bent the fabricated tool.
- We are now in the process of making a stronger bracket in the hope that it will work. But I have little hope.
I spoke to my friendly guy in the local BMW place. he tells me that this is a known issue and our order of removal almost mirrors theirs.
They do not have a specific tools but use whatever they can make up when it is required.
He did say he has never seen a diff break doing this??
He suggested:
- Removing the other shaft and pushing a bar through, then whacking it, in the hope that it pushes the stuck shaft out.
- Dropping and dismantling the diff (this is a hell of a job) and not one he would want to try.
I have attached a couple of pics of the bracket my chap made up for your perusal.
I am thinking that hiring a "Hydraulic"puller may do the job? Has anybody got any experience of these beasts. Please bear in mind that breaking the diff casing is not an option due to cost (£4k)
Whatever we do, we do not want to break anything if at all possible.
My other option is, bite the bullet and drive the car (I am told it can be driven gently) to my local BMW independent and pay them. They will not be cheap, but I need my car back. I spoke with them (above) and they are none to happy, as we have already played with it.
Oh. Leaving the diff end of the shaft in situ and attaching a new outer is not an option as my guy drilled holes in the inner end, so it will be weakened now?
Any help, as always is greatly received and appreciated.
Bruce
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