Cannabis oil

[MissyD]

Im interested in anyone who has used cannabis oil or know someone who has to help cancer, Im looking into it for my son who has just had his second major surgery to remove a stage 4 GBM tumor that hasnt responded even with large amounts of chemo/radiotherapy, thanks

 

[camerafodder]

Hi Missy, sorry to hear that. I have no experience as such but you might want to direct your research towards Colorado. A lot of interesting medical work is being done there since the legalisation of Cannabis.

 

[Peter103]

Hi Missy, sorry to hear this, hope you get some positive answers.

 

[brucemillar]

Missy. I have spoken at length to my surgeon and Oncologist about the benefits of Cannabis in my own (Oesophageal) cancer treatment. I also read up on Google to find any real life help that I could.

The bottom line "for me" was, there appears to be no direct scientific evidence that proves benefits or not. There is a wealth of anecdotal evidence that convinces me that, it has to be worth a try. I saw and read nothing, to counter that.

My medical friends did not argue that view and only cautioned the usual concerns about the legality etc.

I seem to recall that Macmillan have done some work in that area as have Cancer Research. It may be worth contacting both.

May I wish you both well. Please feel free to contact me if you want any further help. I have some contacts within the cancer medical field, who would be happy to help.

Bruce

 

[Red C220]

I've had experience of this product but not for cancer.

Be careful as not all cannabis oil is the same. The stuff you're looking for is also known as Rick Simpson oil which is very difficult to obtain in the UK.

I was buying it from a chap in Manchester who produced it himself at £150 for 5ml of very concentrated oil. It was extremely pure.

It was incredibly effective for the use my wife put it to but fortunately she doesn't need to use it any more.

Hemp Oil and other things are not nearly as effective.

Understand though that you are way off piste with these products, they may or may not help. But sometimes you reach a point at which there are no more solutions and there's simply no downside in giving it a go.

Your most difficult task is finding a supply and knowing how good it is.

 

[PobodY]

As above; I have no experience with using cannabis to treat cancer. - I do know people who have used it to treat the nausea associated with chemotherapy, and some who continue to use it for pain management (in place of opiates).

 

[grober]

Cannabis, cannabinoids and cancer ? the evidence so far - Cancer Research UK - Science blog

https://www.thebraintumourcharity.o...urs/types-of-brain-tumour-adult/glioblastoma/

 

[ash59fifty-uk]

Slight tangent but watched a video the other day of a Parkinson's sufferer, who tried cannabis oil and within ten minutes he was the most chilled and rested he had been in years since having the condition

 

[John]

I can't comment on the treatment and my late mum never tried it either but I genuinely wish you all the best of luck for a positive outcome!

 

[Darrell]

Slight tangent but watched a video the other day of a Parkinson's sufferer, who tried cannabis oil and within ten minutes he was the most chilled and rested he had been in years since having the condition

I have seen that on Facebook.

 

[neilrr]

Those afflicted with cancer have been using marijuana and it's derivatives to ameliorate the effects of chemo for years but I am not aware of people using it as a treatment for cancer itself.

A British company, GW Pharmaceuticals, has had success using various derivatives of cannabis to treat epilepsy. They've been at it for 15+ years & TBH I think if there was any mileage in pursuing weed as a treatment for cancer they would have been on it years ago, it being such a huge market.

 

[MissyD]

Thanks for all the replies and kind words, I really appreciate it. It is so hard to not grab at anything that looks good especially when your emotions are running wild, and they may not be the best thing.

 

[Red C220]

I think if there was any mileage in pursuing weed as a treatment for cancer they would have been on it years ago, it being such a huge market.

I disagree with this assumption.

Treatment using cannabinoids is something I spent a long time researching two to three years ago. I went to the US in search of a few answers.

There are a number of reasons pharmaceuticals have chosen not to actively become involved with this plant. Firstly and most obviously there are the legal issues surrounding it coupled with the stigma of "pot" and dope heads.

But more importantly from a business perspective is patents.

Cannabinoids are most effective when used in pure form and you can't patent a plant or pure plant derivative. Well, you can, but the countries in which you can exercise that patent are limited - see Asprin for a good example of this. So to that end it isn't in the interest of big pharma to pour time an money into a product that has no back end. No conspiracy there, just basic capitalism.

Now someone like the NHS isn't going to actively get involved with a product like this without studies, preferably double blind studies. However studies are generally undertaken and bankrolled by drug companies who have the end goal of selling a product that is determined to be effective. QED.

Modern medicine is awesome, it has transformed how we live and how long we live, but as a race we've become too reliant on manufactured products and lost our way a little bit.

Traditional and homeopathic medicine has a place alongside drug and science based medicine, the two should be used hand in hand, not one or the other.

Sometimes we can't see the wood for the trees, or the cannabis plant for the trees as the case may be.

 

[A250 Bennyboy]

https://youtu.be/zNT8Zo_sfwo

 

[brucemillar]

Traditional and homeopathic medicine has a place alongside drug and science based medicine, the two should be used hand in hand, not one or the other.

Agreed. I am also interested in Neil's points with regards to chemotherapy. I still suffer from "chemo brain" and tinnitus a full eighteen months after my chemo stopped.

 

[ash59fifty-uk]

I have seen that on Facebook.

Quite amazing, although there could of been editing or acting but, I have always read of it's benefits for a long time with multiple conditions

 

[Red C220]

Agreed. I am also interested in Neil's points with regards to chemotherapy. I still suffer from "chemo brain" and tinnitus a full eighteen months after my chemo stopped.

It's quite something Bruce, the thing is though the doses required to have any effect are such that is pretty much shuts you down for some hours if taken orally.

 

[TheFoX]

There's a difference between THC and CBD. THC is the part of the plant that causes the high, and CBD is the part that is supposed to have medicinal benefits.

As with all alternative medicines, the jury is still out, but there will always be those who support a product and those that deny that any benefit exists.

If you believe it will work, give it a try. There are plenty of CBD suppliers out there, with some specialising in different strengths, such as the CBD Brothers.

If it helps, then it is worth the expense, but if it doesn't, what have you got to lose?

 

[NOMONEYBUTAMERC]

I know of someone who used cannabis oil and found it helped to alleviate rather than cure. Biggest problem is obviously "quality and source of supply"as there are unfortunately some who seek only to profit .
Apparently under some circumstances , cannabinoids can cause damage to healthy cells. I wish you all the very best for the future .

 

[John]

There's a difference between THC and CBD. THC is the part of the plant that causes the high, and CBD is the part that is supposed to have medicinal benefits.

As with all alternative medicines, the jury is still out, but there will always be those who support a product and those that deny that any benefit exists.

If you believe it will work, give it a try. There are plenty of CBD suppliers out there, with some specialising in different strengths, such as the CBD Brothers.

If it helps, then it is worth the expense, but if it doesn't, what have you got to lose?

Not forgetting the placebo effect as well.

I've since seen evidence that even just taking something even knowing it might not work still has the benefit of taking the actual drug with certain situations.

You have nothing to lose indeed...