car painting

[carat 3.6]

Have they really come to an arrangement, or has Kaka / zakh / Studio-City / JaguarPaw / Immortal tekniq / Zak Hussain / Zak Hassan / Troll just said that because we are all laughing at him?

 

[nick mercedes]

Have they really come to an arrangement, or has Kaka / zakh / Studio-City / JaguarPaw / Immortal tekniq / Zak Hussain / Zak Hassan / Troll just said that because we are all laughing at him?

I'm dropping some parts off with Andy tommorow so I'll find out, while I'm there I might take a few pictures so you can all see the standard of his facilities and the work he does.

 

[wemorgan]

I'm dropping some parts off with Andy tommorow so I'll find out, while I'm there I might take a few pictures so you can all see the standard of his facilities and the work he does.

Nice idea, but I'm not sure this thread has much to do with evidence and facts, but more about ranting.

 

[nick mercedes]

Nice idea, but I'm not sure this thread has much to do with evidence and facts, but more about ranting.

If nothing else they'll be interesting cars to look at, there's normally a pagoda or something old and valuable being restored.

 

[Harrythedog]

As the OP has now reached a satisfactory outcome perhaps he should open a post entitled
Please use Andy's Auto Barn!

 

[Ierton]

Nice idea, but I'm not sure this thread has much to do with evidence and facts, but more about ranting.

Most of the rants have come from members on the forum .

 

[ringway]

there's normally a pagoda or something old and valuable being restored.

Sounds just like the bodyshop I use. There's always top-end stuff in there (MB approved and officially one of the top ten VW/Audi repairers in the UK).
I'll never forget the sight of a red SLS Coupe that had been vandalised. Full re-paint required. They were sent that car because it had to be spot on.

Only the best bodyshops are entrusted with precious metal.

 

[SavMan]

Most of the rants have come from members on the forum .

On most of the other forums the threads were dying, deleted or locked. On the other Mercedes forum there had been just 15 posts including Andy's at the same time more than 100 here. All the trolls feeding the troll on here only managed to push the problem up the search engine and probably get the guy what he wanted.

 

[C43AMG]

I can't believer how our Moderators have let this nonsense continue for so long, especially when we all knew how he has been banned from other Forums.

I know how Will, Howard, Sean look after there cars and how fastidious they are and would not hesitate to use a company that they have recommended.

 

[BlackC55]

Things like this worry me as a business owner.

Just to be sure. What is your real name? Just incase you book a job in with me.

 

[nick mercedes]

Things like this worry me as a business owner.

Just to be sure. What is your real name? Just incase you book a job in with me.

http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/1630803-post168.html

 

[Farmergeddon]

This is a fairly standard scam tbh... Customer procures goods or services then makes a lot of noise far and wide about being dissatisfied and hard done by. The aim is to wear the small business down and get a refund or part refund to make the problem go away and mitigate bad publicity. Customer then has either a free or very good deal from what they have received despite being pleased with the work/item all along.

Forums are a good way to get your voice heard quickly, easily and cheaply to make this scam effective. All very underhand in my opinion but some people just don't care about how it affects people through stress and financial loss. They just care about themselves which is typical of societies ills today.

 

[IanA2]

This is a fairly standard scam tbh... Customer procures goods or services then makes a lot of noise far and wide about being dissatisfied and hard done by. The aim is to wear the small business down and get a refund or part refund to make the problem go away and mitigate bad publicity. Customer then has either a free or very good deal from what they have received despite being pleased with the work/item all along.

Forums are a good way to get your voice heard quickly, easily and cheaply to make this scam effective. All very underhand in my opinion but some people just don't care about how it affects people through stress and financial loss. They just care about themselves which is typical of societies ills today.

If what you say is true, and I rather suspect it is, the only word to describe this behaviour is despicable.

 

[renault12ts]

Things like this worry me as a business owner.

Just to be sure. What is your real name? Just incase you book a job in with me.

Real name is Zak Hussain.

 

[ss201]

I do hope that no-one associates any of the comments on this post in any way with Andy at Auto Barn at Ledsham on the Wirral - a well-established, highly reputable Mercedes specialist who I have had the pleasure of dealing with on many occasions. I have got to know Andy personally over the years and have always found his work to be outstanding. As in many small businesses, there are always customers who are difficult to please. It's just a shame that an internet forum is such an easy place to air one's grievances. Personally, I think that by hiding behind another name, it's a coward's way of attempting to resolve a business issue.

 

[nick mercedes]

Perhaps it's time the thread got renamed?

Given OP has vanished and seems happy with whatever outcome transpired?

Threads like this may scare off businesses from posting or sponsoring the forum in the future?

 

[Dee-124CAB]

I have tried staying away from commenting on this thread, but as its drawing to a close ( I hope), all I will say is that everyone that has contributed to the 13 pages and almost 200 odd posts of this thread have unwittingly all fallen into the hands of the OP, who's plan it was to cause a big a stir as he can , as long as he can, by involvong as many members as he can... Ultimately to worry Andy into thinking his good reputation built over many years may lay in tatters....

I think in future, as soon as a 'stay away', 'avoid', 'warning' thread appears, they should be closed by the mods and it be put to the OP that they should explore other avenues.... As a really one sided tirade as this, where the other person is not even here to defend himself, may suffer dire consequences from ones persons crusade to destroy.....

 

[BlackC55]

I still think we need to see the pics.

 

[nick mercedes]

I still think we need to see the pics.

Will OP ever return?

He's got what he wanted.

 

[renault12ts]

I hope Andy does not mind...but this is his reply as posted on the other side:

"This is not something that I usually get involved in,especially on a weekend,when I have 4 children to look after,but I feel that I now have to defend position,in regards to Zak Hussain and his 22 year old Mercedes 190E 2.5.He did stress that he is very fussy when it comes to his car.I had no problem with this as I worked for Mercedes UK for 27 years before starting up my own prestige vehicle body shop 5 years ago,and have dealt with many fastidious customers and have always managed to meet theirs and my high standards of workmanship.I was presented with Mr Hussains car befor Christmas,a week when we had a Maserati,Bentley GT and a E63 black series,all of which each customer was extremely pleased with our workmanship.Despite these vehicles,all of my MB trained staff have taken extra care and attention to make his car as perfect as reasonably possible.After picking up his car saying what a great job we had,I later received a call saying he had found a couple of minor marks in rear bumper,sill panel and n/s door panel.I had no hesitation in correcting these items.So this week we have redone these and other things that he has added from original job ie rust in door shut,wiper arm,h/lwiper blades etc, at lot of time and expense to myself (most of work needed a magnifying glass to see!).Again today he has said what a fantastic job we have done when he picked up car today,but did point out a minor blemish on front bumper cover.I also told him about rear bumper which has been painted many times before and the fractures in plastic on lower bumper,which appear when low baked,at first we thought we had not applied enough paint,but this is not the case,for perfection a new bumper is required(you can not paint strip plastic)I would have redone front bumper cover at a later date when convincing,but today have been plagued with 11 texts and a message,with him now threatening legal action and berating me on these forums.I find his over the top OCD behaviour very hard to deal with and it has deeply stressed my family and myself today.BEWARE of this guy he will put you through hell if do work for him! A big thank you to all you guys that have supported me today,if only they warned me of their experiences with him before I got involved! Please be assured that our aim is and always has been to provide a polite and professional service of quality bodywork at reasonable prices."