Changing the antiroll bar

[lotusmark2]

I am looking for a way to reduce bodyroll in corners and having asked around (thanks Steve) it would appear that a thicker antiroll bar may fit the bill.
Does anyone know if the sport model bar is thicker than the elegance and if it is, will it fit straight on (is it DIY do-able)
Any other sugestion welcome (apart from slow down more for the corners

 

[fuzzer]

I am looking for a way to reduce bodyroll in corners and having asked around (thanks Steve) it would appear that a thicker antiroll bar may fit the bill.
Does anyone know if the sport model bar is thicker than the elegance and if it is, will it fit straight on (is it DIY do-able)
Any other sugestion welcome (apart from slow down more for the corners

Okies , ill arrange for someone to visit your home and do an assessment on how bad your moditus is and whether or not we can cure it !!! lol

I know brabus do sports suspension etc for the w202

 

[sym]

Wow - that's a suggestion I've never seen before on here ! I'd never thought that the body roll was too bad on my car . . . certainly compared to my previous car anyway but I suppose there is a tendency to "wallow" a bit round the bends . . . . seemed to cope on the Nurburgring OK though without throwing me about too much !

If changing the roll bar was a possibility then its certainly something I might consider - but I have no idea whether the "sport" ones are any different.

As for the moditus Jason - Mark only seems to be displaying the early signs. The good news is that mine seems to be clearing up after nearly a year, and too many ££££s to think about

S.

 

[Steve_Perry]

I am looking for a way to reduce bodyroll in corners and having asked around (thanks Steve) it would appear that a thicker antiroll bar may fit the bill.
Does anyone know if the sport model bar is thicker than the elegance and if it is, will it fit straight on (is it DIY do-able)
Any other sugestion welcome (apart from slow down more for the corners

Just incase I got anything wrong here is a copy of my PM to Mark...

So what would I need to do to cut the roll then???
I have heard tell of H&R springs????
I dont want a bumpy ride though,
Mine is great in a straight line it just gets a bit tippy in the corners

Well it's a choice of 3...

Changing the springs principally changes the ride height although I think it will affect the stiffness to a certain degree.

Changing the shock absorbers (also called dampers) will mainly effect how stiff the suspension, i.e. the recovery from bounce.

But you say that your car feels tippy in the corners and that is mainly governed by the 'anti roll bar' this is a big bar that connects the left and right suspension arms, the thicker the bar the less body roll in tight corners.

Ahh nice to see that my hours on Gran Turismo haven't been totally wasted Of course if you drop the ride height then that will affect body roll too as there is less 'play' in the suspension.

You might want to try a forum search for 'steering damper' as a number of W202 owners have had these replaced. They're prone to leak on the W202 apparently but from what I've read the handling doesn't change significantly on renewal.

BTW... H&R are just a brand and they principally make car springs, Eibach are another manufacturer, a bit like Spax or Koni Shocks and Brembo brakes.

S.

To answer one question... I don't think there is any difference between Sports and other models' roll bars. I believe the differences lie in the springs and shocks, I could be wrong though.

S.

 

[andy_k]

on the W124 there is a notable difference between the anti roll bar on the standard car and the Sportline, the latter being quite a bit thicker. Maybe the same applies to the W202.

The bad news is that you will need to change both the front and rear to maintain the cars balance.

If their is a kit available, is it DIYable? the front one certainly is as it's only held in place with about 8 bolts you'd need to change the bushes and possibly the brackets and mounts none of which should cost a fortune (on a W124 the brackets are about £12 each - you need 2, the mounts about £5 again you need 2 and the bushes cost about £12 a set). i don't know how easy or hard it is to do the rear bar though and can only speak from experience of the W124 where it's an absolute C**t of a job as you need to drop the rear subframe to get the bar out.

HTH

Andy

 

[lotusmark2]

Hi Andy
I think I am getting a sinking feeling
I have just gone out and bought the Haynes manual to see what sort of a job it is and it is as you say the front is easy the rear is a bugger (MB Dealer job, beyond me)
DOOHHH!
I have done springs and shock on other cars before but the rear roll bar requires the subframe and the drive shaft to be dropped.
Any ideas anyone????

 

[jimmy]

The suspension arms are different on Sport models, it's not just different springs and shocks.

 

[Steve_Perry]

The suspension arms are different on Sport models, it's not just different springs and shocks.

I stand corrected then

S.

 

[andy_k]

you could check and see if any of the aftermarket boys make eurathane bushes for your car's anti roll bar. It's incredible the difference a bit of very solid "rubber" can make when it replaces the stock stuff.

Andy