Cl63 pitted brakes

[tony67]

I've just bought a Cl63 AMG 2007, IT'S COVERED 10000 MILES . AFTER HAVING A b SERVICE AT mERC THEY TELL ME IT NEED NEW DISCS ALL ROUND AND MERC ARE NOT WILLING TO HELP.
COST APPROX £3500 FOR PARTS !

Has anyone else had similar problem or no of good source of parts ???

 

[C240Sport97]

did you buy the car from a dealer .. if so, take it back and complain.

how many miles have you put on it?

Best to get parts from MB .. you need to make sure that the discs are the right ones

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

are they steel or carbon/ceramic/other space age material.

If anything other than steel I'd complain to MB UK Customer Services (not just the dealer).

Some dealers see new (steel) discs as a cash cow. Which is naughty.

If they're steel, unless they're actually damaged (accidental) I doubt they'd actually need to be replaced at that age and mileage.

How are the pads?

 

[Satch]

Pitted? To what extent?

I

 

[bolide]

anything other than steel I'd complain to MB UK Customer Services (not just the dealer)

Why would you complain? If that's what they cost then that's what they cost

I think buying a two-year-old CL63 and complaining about the cost of parts misses the point of the car - you don't buy an AMG for low running costs

If the OP has just bought the car from a dealer maybe he has some comeback but it doesn't read that way to me

Nick Froome

 

[Will]

£3500 sounds like an awful lot for parts-only for the brake discs/pads. They must be pretty special.

Strange that they've worn out so quickly, I can only assume it's been driven pretty hard?

When/where did you buy the car? If it's not from MB why would/should they pay for consumable wear and tear items? Not much different to being told you need new tyres at £1k or whatever. You can't really claim under a warranty for something that hasn't 'broken' as such as far as I can make out.

Need a few more details really.

Will

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Why would you complain? If that's what they cost then that's what they cost

I think buying a two-year-old CL63 and complaining about the cost of parts misses the point of the car - you don't buy an AMG for low running costs

If the OP has just bought the car from a dealer maybe he has some comeback but it doesn't read that way to me

Nick Froome

I probably wasn't clear, I didn't mean complain about the cost of parts.

The OP commented that Merc are unwilling to help - by that I assume he means he's raised a concern to which they've said they're unable to contribute towards the cost of replacement.

Therefore any concern - or complaint - might be better directed at MB UK as they have the ability to make goodwill contributions, which might ease the pain of a very large bill if there's reasonable grounds to do so.

Pitted doesn't sound like worn, and there's no mention of pads being replaced (although you might as whilst the discs are off). So assuming that it's not wear or accidental damage - what's left?

I certainly wouldn't want to be replacing an expensive item such as this on a car of this age and mileage unless worn or damaged.

A final thought. If the OP is not the original owner, then might it be an ex-AMG track/demo car?

 

[johnsco]

I am reminded of the saying ... "Reassuringly-expensive" !!

It would be a mistake to replace the discs (especially at that price) and not replace the pads at the same time.
Otherwise, the likely result would be accelerated wear of the new discs due to grooving.

Cheers.
Johnsco

 

[tony67]

I bought the car privately , with FSH, the service manager at the dealership said he had seen this problem before and he believes it can be caused if the vehicle is left without being driven for long periods??, Would brakes pitt through hard driving rather than warp ?? You can feel a vibration through the pedal when braking so i guess they are pretty bad .

I probably wll write to MB uk but any thoughts anyone has would be useful,

 

[Will]

Hi Tony,

Could you give us a breakdown of the parts costs if you have them?

I'm just interested to know how much the discs cost to buy each.

If they've genuinely only covered 10k miles and are plenty thick enough (I would expect them to be - there should be a new and also a service limit thickness spec from MB), perhaps they could be very lightly skimmed by a reputable engineering firm.

It's very very unusual to get warped discs - and I wouldn't have thought that the pitting would be the cause of the vibration. Perhaps they have a buildup of pad material transferred onto the disc itself? This can easily cause the disc to feel 'warped' and show up as run out, which could give you the vibration under braking that you may have noticed.

FWIW, as far as a claim against MB goes, I think you're probably headed towards a dead end.

Will

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

The pitting would have to be bad to affect the balance of the disk so you'd feel it, and more than just surface corrosion as a result of having been stood.

 

[tudu]

The quote sounds about right for a 63 especially if its got the same front rotors as the CLK 63 AMG, which are what i have on the front of my C55. If they are, recall they costs in the region of £1100.00 per discs plus the pads which are about £140.00 for a pair. Not sure what the rears are but if they are drilled and grooved should be somewhere in the region of £100 plus per rear disc.

If the car /pads and discs have been standing for some time might have needed to go through pad and disc wear in procedure prior to putting the car back on the forecourt. AMG's can be horrendously expensive to maintain - might want to try euromerc (see forum specialist) and get Ollie (PCS) to quote you to fit them for you. I try to stay clear of MB main dealers, once they know you have an AMG the ££££ signs keeps going up.

 

[BlackC55]

Just get the discs skimmed. Problem sorted.

 

[lynall]

I would agree with will and blackc55 skim them.



Lynall

 

[tromppost]

Just get the discs skimmed. Problem sorted.

Just skim the customer. Problem sorted!!

 

[johnsco]

Get them skimmed (by a precision machine shop).
Then fit new pads.

 

[tony67]

Thanks for everyones comments, i'm waiting for a break down of cost which i wiil post. I take on board what some of you have said about expensive car so i should expect it, but equally a car which is capable of the performance this has should at least have parts that stand up to the task ? 10000 miles is low mileage, does anyone agree that they should last longer than 2 years and 10k before they pit ?
Anyway i will look into getting the discs skimmed so thanks for that, can anyone reccomend a machine shop for that ?
I'm based in south leicestershire.

 

[lynall]

Your best bet is going to be the local mb/bmw spercialist who will know of a decent machine shop, so he can remove and refit for you, and get the skimming done.

I have seen loads of corroded discs mainly on small cars and almost always on the rears always due to lack of use, or just used to potter around town so never get a decent work out.

Next time you wash it look at the discs the next day and see how they have rusted overnight imagine if left for a week or two then repeated etc etc.



Lynall

 

[DSLiverpool]

For what its worth Im on the original pads 3 years and 25k miles and I am heavy on the stoppers - also FWIW the CLS has been very cheap to run in comparison to the Aston, my old GS430 and my old 730d - cheaper than all of them