Cloudy glasses

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We are lazy and put all crockery/pots & pans/glasses, etc in the dishwasher together.
Dishwasher runs on soft water, we use 3 in 1 tablets but dishwasher also asks for additional rinse-aid which I have added and set the control to minimum.

Usually run "normal" cycle which is a 130 minute program.

Over time drinking glasses have become cloudy.

Is the cloudyness the erosion of the glass caused by the harsh washing or is it a limescale type deposit due to too much (or too little) rinse aid?:dk:
 
It's erosion on the glass. Sometimes associated with too much salt. Can you set the machine for hardness or otherwise of your water? 3 in 1 tablets do contain quite a high level of salt.
Usually happens on poorer quality glass over time. Another reason to NEVER put crystal in the D/w.
I only ever use cheap, paris wine glasses, tumblers etc. and for every day use and wash all others by hand.
Try using a "quick" was programme if you can (30 mins or so) for crockery and glass and only use normal or intensive for pots and pans.
 
never put the best glasses in, but every day glasses go in.
I'll have a look for a hardness setting, but I can't remember seeing one.
I guess it doesn't help using 3 in 1 tablets with softened water.
 
Never have that problem, just use Fairy Liquid and buy the dishwasher some rubber gloves from time to time
 
We put the everyday glasses in the dishwasher and replace when they discolour too much.

Good crystal and any 'decent' glassware gets hand washed.

Dishwashers are convenient but evil machines.
 
I have always put my best wine glasses in the dishwasher if I can fit them - having dinner parties with numerous wines I can't be bothered to wash up by hand. No problems to date.
 
Cheap rinse aid or no rinse aid can cause the glasses to look "frosted" or cloudy check "all in one tabs" may not have all in :)
 
Have found that more recent machines don't cloud our glasses
 
Hmmm... current "finish quantum" tabs claim to include rinse aid & salt for water softening.
Also claims that glasses will not be damaged & go cloudy!!!

Have checked the setting for water hardness & it is set to minimum
 
i think our water is 'medium', i use all-in-one tabs + salt & rinse aid. never had any problems with our glasses in the 14 years of having a dishwasher (7 years with a bosch, now a miele).

bit of info here:
Cleaning delicate glassware in the dishwasher can be a problem. Most manufacturers suggest you avoid putting long-stemmed wine glasses in, as they may break.
The aluminium, lead and silver content of crystal glasses also tends to discolour or fade if you wash them repeatedly.
If you're feeling brave and want to risk glassware in the dishwasher, there are a few things to bear in mind:
  • Wash delicate glassware separately and select the lowest temperature with the shortest duration possible.
  • Spread glasses out in the upper basket to ensure they avoid contact with each other. Some wine specialist stores such as wineware.co.uk and manufacturers including Whirlpool sell crystal glass racks for this purpose.
  • Use a mild that is ‘kind to dishes’ or labelled ‘glass protector’.
  • Place a cup of white vinegar in the lowest part of the dishwasher and run for 10 minutes. Stop the cycle, add a little detergent and re-start
  • To prevent damage, remove glasses from the machine as soon as the program has finished.
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The damage is caused by caustic soda in the dishwasher tablets.

As has been said, dishwashers are aggressive cleaners. If you must put everyday glasses in (as we do) then be prepared to replace avery year or so. Never put crystal glasses in particularly those with real gold detailing.

The caustic soda also eats away at the sharp edge of a knife blade so never put your best kitchen knives in or they will go blunt!
 
Merc Owner 2B said:
The damage is caused by caustic soda in the dishwasher tablets.

As has been said, dishwashers are aggressive cleaners. If you must put everyday glasses in (as we do) then be prepared to replace avery year or so. Never put crystal glasses in particularly those with real gold detailing.

The caustic soda also eats away at the sharp edge of a knife blade so never put your best kitchen knives in or they will go blunt!
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I'm totally agree with you man.You'r 100% good here that mostly caused by caustic soda in the dishwasher tablets.Cleaning up the kitchen is part of cooking.The caustic soda also eats away at the sharp edge of a knife blade.Thanks for taking this opportunity to discuss this.
 
My crystal costs way to much to risk in the dishwasher, like others I only put cheap everyday glasses in the machine.
 
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