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- E63s s213 2019, E55 2004 Silver-SOLD, E63 w212 Weistec AMG-SOLD, E55 2004-SOLD, C36 1997-SOLD
was a nicely spec'd car, definitely held its money.
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The colour combo is stunning...I'm still not sure about the rear styling on the shooting brake though.
(I realise that I may now be asked to hand my membership card back to the Forum Mods )
That's exactly the bit I can't get my head round!I also find that in profile, the rear part of the roof line on the SB looks a little odd where it swoops down at a slower rate than the window line.
That's exactly the bit I can't get my head round!
But what do I know? I'm not exactly the epitome of style and elegance myself
Do you mean the D pillar?Having thought about it, all other cars have a c pillar that's wider at the base than at the top. This one's the other way round. From the view from side on and also from the rear.
That's what's odd.
Yes, the D pillar.Do you mean the D pillar?
It’s not common but it’s not unique. The mark 1 Focus also had a similar D pillar. Designers do it to make the roofline appear to be sleeker than it really is.
Interesting to hear a comparison with the 212 estate which I understand handles much better than the 211....You - well, I - don't really notice it from most angles unless you're looking for it, but it's particularly apparent in silhouette. I'd guess they needed that extra height towards the rear, otherwise it wouldn't be an estate, it would be a large hatchback, and since the rear doors are the same as on the standard CLS, the stylists had little choice but to maintain the sleek line of the chrome windows surround.
Mactech, who I rather think knows his stuff, had this to say about the W211/C219 CLS:
"I've had both the 211 E class (but both V6) and a '59 plate CLS. They were all under 3 years old when I had them and never gave a moments bother. Others have commented on long term reliability.
We know they are both based on the same platform, but the CLS feels a completely different car...in a good way.
The shell is stiffer, lower and wider and feels much more like a sports saloon than a taxi to drive.
The ride comfort is as good as the E Class, but handling is so much more involving.
I moved from an S Class to the CLS and gave away very little in terms of refinement and comfort but gained a car which would 'play' when asked. Something the E and S are very reluctant to do.
If you are looking for an executive car which can be fun when pushed....then you are looking in the right place"
Not bad at all for a decently capacious estate; you can forgive slightly compromised and clumsy styling...
Interesting to hear a comparison with the 212 estate which I understand handles much better than the 211....
You - well, I - don't really notice it from most angles unless you're looking for it, but it's particularly apparent in silhouette. I'd guess they needed that extra height towards the rear, otherwise it wouldn't be an estate, it would be a large hatchback, and since the rear doors are the same as on the standard CLS, the stylists had little choice but to maintain the sleek line of the chrome windows surround.
Mactech, who I rather think knows his stuff, had this to say about the W211/C219 CLS:
"I've had both the 211 E class (but both V6) and a '59 plate CLS. They were all under 3 years old when I had them and never gave a moments bother. Others have commented on long term reliability.
We know they are both based on the same platform, but the CLS feels a completely different car...in a good way.
The shell is stiffer, lower and wider and feels much more like a sports saloon than a taxi to drive.
The ride comfort is as good as the E Class, but handling is so much more involving.
I moved from an S Class to the CLS and gave away very little in terms of refinement and comfort but gained a car which would 'play' when asked. Something the E and S are very reluctant to do.
If you are looking for an executive car which can be fun when pushed....then you are looking in the right place"
Not bad at all for a decently capacious estate; you can forgive slightly compromised and clumsy styling...
Have you sat in the back of one? I did during a short trip down at MB World and didn't like it at all: felt claustrophobic.Thanks for digging that out. I've always had a bit of hankering for a CLS. That hasn't helped
Have you sat in the back of one? I did during a short trip down at MB World and didn't like it at all: felt claustrophobic.
And going back to the whole "lifestyle estate" thing, isn't that reduced roofline a problem?
Asks the bloke who still hasn't worked out how to replace his petrol S212 after more than a year....
Did the Golf GT 1.4 TSI when Cost Centre One went off to University. Awfully capable car but, well, you know, just not that interesting... even with the assistance of an SL500 as Dad's runabout, it's not quite up to snuff.I sometime just sit and idly wonder what happens when the kids leave home and I shuffle closer to requirement; could I ditch the extra weight and space of the estate and get, say, a CLS saloon with folding seats? Lower, lighter, more rigid.
Maybe I'll just go all Scottish and get a Golf 1.4 TSI with a few toys. Spacious, cheap, does what it says on the tin.
I'm tracking my pension & investments quite closely now and enjoying seeing them grow nicely as I enter the final stretch of my career. I could shed a bit of car spend and stick the balance into yet another tax-efficient pot somewhere. Hmmmmm......
TBH, when I bought my first C43 the idea was to scratch that V8 itch for three years or so. I'm getting to end of year 18 now. Maybe I'll get to 20 years and downsize.
ETA; the Golf GTE would do me fine; 40 mile battery range. Now I've helped my mate get into an E300e, I'm quite intrigued by PHEV's.
I'd second all of that, having had a W211, C219, W212 and X218.You - well, I - don't really notice it from most angles unless you're looking for it, but it's particularly apparent in silhouette. I'd guess they needed that extra height towards the rear, otherwise it wouldn't be an estate, it would be a large hatchback, and since the rear doors are the same as on the standard CLS, the stylists had little choice but to maintain the sleek line of the chrome windows surround.
Mactech, who I rather think knows his stuff, had this to say about the W211/C219 CLS:
"I've had both the 211 E class (but both V6) and a '59 plate CLS. They were all under 3 years old when I had them and never gave a moments bother. Others have commented on long term reliability.
We know they are both based on the same platform, but the CLS feels a completely different car...in a good way.
The shell is stiffer, lower and wider and feels much more like a sports saloon than a taxi to drive.
The ride comfort is as good as the E Class, but handling is so much more involving.
I moved from an S Class to the CLS and gave away very little in terms of refinement and comfort but gained a car which would 'play' when asked. Something the E and S are very reluctant to do.
If you are looking for an executive car which can be fun when pushed....then you are looking in the right place"
Not bad at all for a decently capacious estate; you can forgive slightly compromised and clumsy styling...
Me too.Totally agree having had and E500 w211 followed by a cls55 w219 which i still have. Loved the E500 but much prefer the cls for all the reasons statedI'd second all of that, having had a W211, C219, W212 and X218.
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