Comand Navigation-missing Location

[DieselE]

On Saturday, I was taking my brother to Cardiff Airport. As it is nearly forty years since I was last there, I thought I would use COMAND to guide me.

I typed in Cardiff and then pressed the POI button. No Airport. So I typed in Rhoose (the original name for the airport). Again nothing. Fortunately my brother was a regular user of the airport so he acted as guide.

I kept the map on the screen and when we arrived at the airport there was still nothing on the map. Ironically, when leaving the airport I punched in Home and COMAND located itself on the exit road from the airport even though it didn't acknowledge that the airport was there.

OK, so "Cardiff International Airport" is not the biggest in the world but there has been an airport on the site since the Second World War and scheduled passenger flights for at least forty years. Is this the biggest feature in the UK to be omitted from the DVD?

Does anyone know who I could contact to suggests the airport's inclusion.

 

[Rory]

I can never remember whose mapping data is used (did they change at some point)? Anyway,
Teleatlas
http://mapfeedback.teleatlas.com/index.htm
Navteq
http://mapreporter.navteq.com/dur-web-external/secured/submitDur.do?userType=CONSUMER&language=en

what bugs me (apart from lack of full post code look up) is that about 2 out 5 streets I look up are not in the database, yet they are actually on the map when you get there!

 

[DieselE]

I can never remember whose mapping data is used (did they change at some point)? Anyway,
Teleatlas
http://mapfeedback.teleatlas.com/index.htm
Navteq
http://mapreporter.navteq.com/dur-web-external/secured/submitDur.do?userType=CONSUMER&language=en

what bugs me (apart from lack of full post code look up) is that about 2 out 5 streets I look up are not in the database, yet they are actually on the map when you get there!

Thanks for the links. It's Navteq for the W211.

When I was using the 4.1 disk, I used to get the problem you mention. Since installing 5.1 I've no longer noticed it. Maybe I don't go to obscure streets anymore.

 

[joembuck]

Is this the biggest feature in the UK to be omitted from the DVD?
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As I noted elsewhere, the entire island of Jersey (also Guernsey) is missing.

 

[masqueraid]

As I noted elsewhere, the entire island of Jersey (also Guernsey) is missing.

That'll be because they're not in the UK

 

[Brian WH]

That'll be because they're not in the UK

Nor if France but it is on my Sat-Nav map.

 

[glojo]

If you log onto the Navteq site there is a section that allows you to input information

It's certainly not a very good advert if this airport is not listed. I wonder if it is a problem with the COMAND POI as opposed to lack of routing? I can see both sides blaming each other?

John

 

[Brian WH]

It's shown on my Garmin Navteq??

 

[television]

I have said before that the Command in the new S class Is 40 miles out in the EW heading direction from Grenwich, only someone used to piloting a plane would normally pick this up. Never seen anyone complain, only my friend

 

[glojo]

I have said before that the Command in the new S class Is 40 miles out in the EW heading direction from Grenwich, only someone used to piloting a plane would normally pick this up. Never seen anyone complain, only my friend

Is that the latest Hard drive based system? I am amazed the system is so far out. On my 211 in a bricks and mortar garage with an insulated closeddoor, the system still receives the signal from 5 satellites and the Lat Long is spot on to within a few yards.

John

 

[television]

Is that the latest Hard drive based system? I am amazed the system is so far out. On my 211 in a bricks and mortar garage with an insulated closeddoor, the system still receives the signal from 5 satellites and the Lat Long is spot on to within a few yards.

John

Hi John, it is the lat that is out, the car is only 6 months old,a fully loaded S class, my friend has to drive from London to Oxford (40 miles) before it tells him the he is heading west

 

[glojo]

Hi John, it is the lat that is out, the car is only 6 months old,a fully loaded S class, my friend has to drive from London to Oxford (40 miles) before it tells him the he is heading west

Crikey,
Are you saying it takes 40 miles of travelling in a westerly direction before the systems decides what direction the vehicle is travelling, or is it 40 miles out with its accuracy?

When parked at its home address, has he checked the lat. long. with an ordinance survey map?

John

 

[television]

Crikey,
Are you saying it takes 40 miles of travelling in a westerly direction before the systems decides what direction the vehicle is travelling, or is it 40 miles out with its accuracy?

When parked at its home address, has he checked the lat. long. with an ordinance survey map?

John

Yes he was the Trafic Master (blue cameras) pilot for London both in a chopper and plane so he knows all of the bearings off by heart, it is the 40 miles out when traveling, I will give him a ring shortly to see if MB have resolved this

 

[steve.link]

I live in Cardiff and Peter is correct - select Cardiff and then POI and no airport is found. However - select Airport POI from "current location" (in my case 8 miles from the airport) and CARDIFF INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT is found no problem. Suggests to me a issue with the data on the disk. Mine is Ver 5.1.

This might explain why I sometimes have difficulty locating POI's that you would expect to be readilly available - I recall not be able to locate a car park, via the POI menu, in London a few months ago!

 

[Diesel Benz]

My experience from the W221 Navi is that the POI database is limited but at my area at least, every possible street is named, if it has one. And in addition it shows private dirt roads that do not have a name, down to that level that I would not drive the road with a W221 (and I'm not picky with the roads).

I prefer the accurate map over POI, in case there needs to be a compromise. I'm afraid a single DL DVD is not able to hold all POI data that Navteq/Tele-Atlas would have for Europe, once the roads are there too. I often look for the street address from internet before a trip, and use the street address instead of expecting to find the destination from the POI data base. POI for car parks or restaurants is even more dynamic than streets, better then use on line cell phone services for the street address (not that I would not mind a good POI selection through the Comand too).

The navi may not show all small streets on the map unless you zoom to the max. It really should find the street for a destination if it does appear on the map. You may need to be careful with the spelling etc. Better to use a few letters and then browse the street list. Also the city selection may be an issue.

I don't understand the heading comment, I've hardly seen less than 9 satellites on the Navi status line, 12 most of the time. But I have not looked at the heading indication just after startup, if I select a destination, it briefly shows the heading towards the destination, before showing the route. I don't see why it would not be able to show the heading just about immediately. And I'm talking about a year old W221 with the original map data.

 

[television]

I don't understand the heading comment, I've hardly seen less than 9 satellites on the Navi status line, 12 most of the time. But I have not looked at the heading indication just after startup, if I select a destination, it briefly shows the heading towards the destination, before showing the route. I don't see why it would not be able to show the heading just about immediately. And I'm talking about a year old W221 with the original map data.

Time goes fast, thinking about this I was with my friend when he ordered his 221 car that was last Aug and there was a 6 week wait, I do know that a new car in the showroom had the same fault, he is away for the time being moving airplanes around the world, I will post back with the details and the outcome on his return

 

[steve.link]

Waht is the difference between a POI and a Global POI? I have just noticed that Cardiff International Airport is liste as a Global POI??

Also noticed that if you select Barry as a city (the nearest town to the airport) it will find the airport as a POI but not if you select Cardiff or Rhoose??

It must be down to the data on the disk

 

[DieselE]

Waht is the difference between a POI and a Global POI? I have just noticed that Cardiff International Airport is liste as a Global POI??

Also noticed that if you select Barry as a city (the nearest town to the airport) it will find the airport as a POI but not if you select Cardiff or Rhoose??

It must be down to the data on the disk

How do you find Global POIs?

I have disk 5.1 like you. The bit I found odd was that the airport did not show on the map even when I was in the car park.

 

[Diesel Benz]

As I noted elsewhere, the entire island of Jersey (also Guernsey) is missing.

I did not check which system you referred but my year old map DVD does cover both Jersey (nice place) and Guernsey (still to be visited), and I had no problems to find the Cardiff air port. The airplane symbol also shown with that area selected (no live tests there though). I assume my map data should be at the same level with the current W211 data.

 

[steve.link]

How do you find Global POIs?.

Pete,

There are in a sub menu under POI when you select "Navigate to" on the main screen. Also referred to in the COMAND manual.

Only a few exist but they don't appear to be proper places - except for Cardiff Airport.

Can anyone check this out on a VER6.0 disk?