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Coolant question W204 OM651

RM88

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Good Morning

Sorry I feel like I’m spamming a bit with a couple of recent threads but as these issues can be specific to certain models/engines I’m hoping someone has had similar experiences.

Recently purchased a 2011 C200CDI with the OM651 engine. I had the coolant flushed last week as it was looking a little old and a little rusty, although there was no oil in expansion tank. The day after the flush the add coolant light came up. It was a little low so topped it up with distilled water and antifreeze at the 50/50 ratio, I put this down to possible air in the system after the flush.

Yesterday morning (car stone cold) the light came on again but went off after 1/2 mile of driving. I work pretty close to home but the car was up to temp in this short drive (5 miles) so carefully opened the cap to check. The coolant level was quite a bit above the mark in the tank. I think if I had added again it would have been right to the top of the tank when arriving at work.

Sorry for the long post but I'm struggling to understand how the light can come on first thing but the coolant be quite a bit over the mark after the car gets up to temp? If it stayed low then I’d think I’m loosing coolant somewhere. I understand that coolant will rise when hot but if I was to top up cold and it rises the same amount it would possibly overflow.

As a side note I can’t see any coolant loss in the normal places, water pump or fuel filter area, although there does seem to be a small amount of old coolant staining under the fuel filter housing. Every video I’ve watched of a leak in that area though seems to show wet coolant there. Oil looks fine, no milky residue at all and no smoke on start up etc.

Finally the odd thing that I’ve never experienced with a diesel car is that the interior fans seem to blow reasonably warm almost as soon as the car is started. Previous diesels take a while to do this. Could this point to an air lock in the heater matrix? The car itself seems to get up to temp pretty quickly, within 3-4 miles. Never overheats and always stays around 90c when fully up to temp.

Thanks
 
Good Morning

Sorry I feel like I’m spamming a bit with a couple of recent threads but as these issues can be specific to certain models/engines I’m hoping someone has had similar experiences.

Recently purchased a 2011 C200CDI with the OM651 engine. I had the coolant flushed last week as it was looking a little old and a little rusty, although there was no oil in expansion tank. The day after the flush the add coolant light came up. It was a little low so topped it up with distilled water and antifreeze at the 50/50 ratio, I put this down to possible air in the system after the flush.

Yesterday morning (car stone cold) the light came on again but went off after 1/2 mile of driving. I work pretty close to home but the car was up to temp in this short drive (5 miles) so carefully opened the cap to check. The coolant level was quite a bit above the mark in the tank. I think if I had added again it would have been right to the top of the tank when arriving at work.

Sorry for the long post but I'm struggling to understand how the light can come on first thing but the coolant be quite a bit over the mark after the car gets up to temp? If it stayed low then I’d think I’m loosing coolant somewhere. I understand that coolant will rise when hot but if I was to top up cold and it rises the same amount it would possibly overflow.

As a side note I can’t see any coolant loss in the normal places, water pump or fuel filter area, although there does seem to be a small amount of old coolant staining under the fuel filter housing. Every video I’ve watched of a leak in that area though seems to show wet coolant there. Oil looks fine, no milky residue at all and no smoke on start up etc.

Finally the odd thing that I’ve never experienced with a diesel car is that the interior fans seem to blow reasonably warm almost as soon as the car is started. Previous diesels take a while to do this. Could this point to an air lock in the heater matrix? The car itself seems to get up to temp pretty quickly, within 3-4 miles. Never overheats and always stays around 90c when fully up to temp.

Thanks
I had the petrol version of the 204, but I have a feeling the diesel may have an auxiliary electric heating element to warm the interior until the engine warms up. Someone who actually knows what they're talking about will be along shortly no doubt
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Hi there!
I believe it is quite normal to top up couple times after a flash and coolant change.
It's happened to me couple years ago,and the job was done by Mercedes Benz dealership.
Took the car and after couple miles was low.
Again last month when i done a flash and charged the coolant from blue to pink,i need to top up three times,this because some of the parts,like houses, water pump etc are not completely full,and after a drive are starting to get completely full.
I noticed on mine couple times,same thing,when was cold,the light from coolant came on and when warmed disappeared.
Coolant was just below the line,i believe the sensor is quite sensitive,and can be the contractions and expansion during difference of temperature.
I remember with the tires driving in Norway, pressure was correct,but the dash shows me all the time low pressure.
Just keep an eye on the coolant level.
I am not a specialist,but when i started to filling up with the new coolant,i left the radiator tap open for couple seconds,i don't know if can from air bubbles in the system,mine is fine now.
 
The original coolant in your car has a change interval of 15 years or 150,000 Km.

What colour was the original coolant, and what's the make and spec of the new coolant?
 
Thank you both. I’ll keep an eye on it. I’m on a second top up now so hopefully it’ll level off. If it keeps happening I’ll obviously have to do some further investigating.
 
The original coolant in your car has a change interval of 15 years or 150,000 Km.

What colour was the original coolant, and what's the make and spec of the new coolant?

I had it flushed because I believe that the previous owner or garage had used the wrong coolant or wrong ratio possibly when getting the water pump changed. The colour was clear ish with an orange tint. It’s MB pink in there now.
 
If was clear with a orange tint,i believe was pink coolant, over top with just water in time.
Mine,was blue and changed greenish in time,but the colour was still strong.
 
You car should have had the older MB325.0/326.0 (G48):green/blue coolant.

If the drained coolant was finkeesh, then it was replaced at some point (presumably when the coolant pump was replaced).

By the sound of it, you are now using the newer type of coolant, MB325.5/325.6 (G40), which is pink.
 
You car should have had the older MB325.0/326.0 (G48):green/blue coolant.

If the drained coolant was finkeesh, then it was replaced at some point (presumably when the coolant pump was replaced).

By the sound of it, you are now using the newer type of coolant, MB325.5/325.6 (G40), which is pink.
I replaced the water pump myself, and just top up with coolant (old one,blue)still had left one litre.When i contacted Mercedes Benz dealership to purchase coolant this year, and specified green,they said to me,are only two types,blue and pink,and blue is discontinued,and the color changed, become greener with time.
 
Just an update. It does seem that there was air trapped in the system. Hasn’t lost level now after 2 tops up and no warning light.

Thanks for the help.
 
Good Morning

Sorry I feel like I’m spamming a bit with a couple of recent threads but as these issues can be specific to certain models/engines I’m hoping someone has had similar experiences.

Recently purchased a 2011 C200CDI with the OM651 engine. I had the coolant flushed last week as it was looking a little old and a little rusty, although there was no oil in expansion tank. The day after the flush the add coolant light came up. It was a little low so topped it up with distilled water and antifreeze at the 50/50 ratio, I put this down to possible air in the system after the flush.

Yesterday morning (car stone cold) the light came on again but went off after 1/2 mile of driving. I work pretty close to home but the car was up to temp in this short drive (5 miles) so carefully opened the cap to check. The coolant level was quite a bit above the mark in the tank. I think if I had added again it would have been right to the top of the tank when arriving at work.

Sorry for the long post but I'm struggling to understand how the light can come on first thing but the coolant be quite a bit over the mark after the car gets up to temp? If it stayed low then I’d think I’m loosing coolant somewhere. I understand that coolant will rise when hot but if I was to top up cold and it rises the same amount it would possibly overflow.

As a side note I can’t see any coolant loss in the normal places, water pump or fuel filter area, although there does seem to be a small amount of old coolant staining under the fuel filter housing. Every video I’ve watched of a leak in that area though seems to show wet coolant there. Oil looks fine, no milky residue at all and no smoke on start up etc.

Finally the odd thing that I’ve never experienced with a diesel car is that the interior fans seem to blow reasonably warm almost as soon as the car is started. Previous diesels take a while to do this. Could this point to an air lock in the heater matrix? The car itself seems to get up to temp pretty quickly, within 3-4 miles. Never overheats and always stays around 90c when fully up to temp.

Thanks
The level sensor maybe intermittently faulty.

It has a aux heater adjacent to the heater matrix powered by the alternator.
 

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