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Crashed my w215 cl500 need some help

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Hello,my english is not perfect so sorry,hope you will understand me.I crashed my cl500 a bit lol.I will need to replace some bottom parts,engine oil tank broke too.So I kind a dont want to get rid of my cl so I thought I might just repair it,people said it might be costly but,well whatever maybe.Btw thats 2-3 minutes after turning esp off,idiot friend advice,was driving pedal to the end all the time these roads,never felt any danger...Anyway..So the metal part engine stands on have to be replace,some other driving stuff,some front metals,radiator and so on.Well it might got fixed,thing is now I started to think,didnt my engine broke too? Under hood it doesnt look bad,just the radiator and cooling fan.After crash engine wasnt working,but today I looked under the hood and all engine belts are fallen off,now im starting to think,if engine spin for at least a second without belt automatically engine failure? I was thinking it would be sad to fix all the problems that there is and at the end find out engine failed too.Maybe somebody had similar crash,what chance do you think about engine failure? I have no freaking idea when engine stopped working or when belts fell off..and there is no way to test now when everything is broken...Anyone had similar accident? Another question,could I replace my s500 engine with s600 engine + ecu or there are more problems? If id go through all the pain and then found out engine damaged adding s600 engine would cover feeling all the bad and expenses,not even sure its worth repairing but i like my cars i have feelings for them so.
 

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Hello,my english is not perfect so sorry,hope you will understand me.I crashed my cl500 a bit lol.I will need to replace some bottom parts,engine oil tank broke too.So I kind a dont want to get rid of my cl so I thought I might just repair it,people said it might be costly but,well whatever maybe.Btw thats 2-3 minutes after turning esp off,idiot friend advice,was driving pedal to the end all the time these roads,never felt any danger...Anyway..So the metal part engine stands on have to be replace,some other driving stuff,some front metals,radiator and so on.Well it might got fixed,thing is now I started to think,didnt my engine broke too? Under hood it doesnt look bad,just the radiator and cooling fan.After crash engine wasnt working,but today I looked under the hood and all engine belts are fallen off,now im starting to think,if engine spin for at least a second without belt automatically engine failure? I was thinking it would be sad to fix all the problems that there is and at the end find out engine failed too.Maybe somebody had similar crash,what chance do you think about engine failure? I have no freaking idea when engine stopped working or when belts fell off..and there is no way to test now when everything is broken...Anyone had similar accident? Another question,could I replace my s500 engine with s600 engine + ecu or there are more problems? If id go through all the pain and then found out engine damaged adding s600 engine would cover feeling all the bad and expenses,not even sure its worth repairing but i like my cars i have feelings for them so.
I think it's time to sell the car for spares and get another one. Looks like a money pit to me. Sorry for your bad luck.
 
The auxilury belts on the front of the engine do not control valves, so that will not have done internal damage.

Engine oil tank? = do you mean the oil sump. Is the floor covered in oil....was it running with no oil in the sump for long after the impact...heat can build quickly.

Metal part engine stands on = do you mean engine mounts, (between subframe and engine. .... or the actual subframe which also carries the suspension? If subframe damage, it will maybe have also damaged ABC pipes, don’t let ABC pump run dry.

The damage to the bodywork appears light(ish) from that one photo, did the airbags deploy? (Assuming the gap at bonnet is because it isn’t shut properly.
If airbags deployed, it’s more expense, and reset on STAR.

600 engine wouldn’t be cost effective at all.

If you hit hard enough to dislodge the radiator, then it may have shredded the belts, however the front crossmember/slam panel may have moved

As it is, its probably the wrong side of borderline, and may make more money if you break it for spares!

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The auxilury belts on the front of the engine do not control valves, so that will not have done internal damage.

Engine oil tank? = do you mean the oil sump. Is the floor covered in oil....was it running with no oil in the sump for long after the impact...heat can build quickly.

Metal part engine stands on = do you mean engine mounts, (between subframe and engine. .... or the actual subframe which also carries the suspension? If subframe damage, it will maybe have also damaged ABC pipes, don’t let ABC pump run dry.

The damage to the bodywork appears light(ish) from that one photo, did the airbags deploy? (Assuming the gap at bonnet is because it isn’t shut properly.
If airbags deployed, it’s more expense, and reset on STAR.

600 engine wouldn’t be cost effective at all.

If you hit hard enough to dislodge the radiator, then it may have shredded the belts, however the front crossmember/slam panel may have moved

As it is, its probably the wrong side of borderline, and may make more money if you break it for spares!

:(

Ohhh great!! Somebody with some optimism!Im just curious about engine posibilities.if I wanted to sell car for parts ( i wouldnt get anything for it anyway LOL!! What would i sell,transmission? and for sold parts buy what? vw golf 4?) no its not an option,not now,I have feelings for my car,its not 2 liter diesel you replace for something else,I love my cl500,plus I have a plan to crash it again so..well hopefully not,but I will..I have w212,I want to have this cl when i get w216.I tend to attach to my things.Yes my carter is broken,oil tank below engine.All oil ran out,so did antifreeze from radiator.Yes airbags blew,it looks quite good in the picture,but its worse under,I need replace the thing that holds motor under,then other metals around,I got ok with front fixing part.But today I got afraid when I had a thought about engine failure as i said.I added more pictures so you can see its worse than it looks,plus where im gonna get 1 brabus 19inch wheel lol..Anyway belts fell of after that front big engine air blower in front,so youre saying those front belts couldnt have caused internal engine damage?
Yeah sure I know its bad and not many people would fix it,but I dont want to sell car to someone for nothing,and fixing it will still cost me less than a whole car or same,but I dont really care,I already showed a person a car and will show it some day again lifted,he said a sum,I might be ok with it even if its not that low,parts are cheap tho most parts fit from 220 which are bargain now,and 1 or 2 cl metals wont cost much,now the only thing that worries me is engine,if engine broken,now that might be over edge...

Just for a gossip,ive just read you can just put in 55 amg engine inside and it will run,you dont even need to reprogram ecu since its same m113 engine.

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I have this engine removed from our car its a 2009 = C180 KOMP BLUEEFF 1597cc Petrol. WDD204. Engine is complete as removed all or most pipes are here ,reason we changed it was timeing chain (I think exhaust) jumped engine would not start, after I drove it back from the garage. If interested £200.
 
I have this engine removed from our car its a 2009 = C180 KOMP BLUEEFF 1597cc Petrol. WDD204. Engine is complete as removed all or most pipes are here ,reason we changed it was timeing chain (I think exhaust) jumped engine would not start, after I drove it back from the garage. If interested £200.

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This car is beyond economical repair. the oil pump runs close to the sump, if the sump is pushed up it will have smashed the oil pump. I also note the airbags have gone off.

Dropping in a M113 engine is the least of your worries, it's all the other broken stuff that will cost too much.

In the UK its only worth breaking or 'weighing in' at the scrap yard. Where you live ...who knows ? it's your call. Good luck :thumb:
 
Looking at those other photos, it looks bad, subframe, suspension(expensive), sump, possible damage to crank, and oil pump, and maybe ABC pump if it ran dry, then panels, paint, trim, airbags and interior trim, various clips, hoses, radiator, auxiliary belts, and 50 small things you won’t notice until you start putting it back together :(
 
Under NO circumstances should you repair this car.

Yes, you can spend a huge amount of money and TIME trying to fix this.

As a rough guide of what it will cost you, write down how much you think it is, and then multiply it by two. (Three or four if you're not a trained motor engineer.) Once fixed, you will never be able to sell it, because no-one wants such a repaired car.

Remember there will be many things broken, or damaged, away from the main impact, that you can't begin to see

Spend a grand (£1000) on a well running CL500, and you'll have a car worth keeping for years.
 
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The op lives in KNS...perhaps things are cheaper there?
 
To get new w215 and crash it again? Sooner or later it will happen anyway.Estimated cost is about 2k,might go up a bit.Yes im not in UK,if I was in UK only scrap yard would be an option.I bet you guys pay like 500 for few injectors and replacement lol.Ive been in garage not long time ago they fix cars worse than these from USA 2018 mercedes/bmw its crazy,crashed m3 was just sold for 50k,the guy who repaired it,my friends friend took the car to official bmw center they couldnt identify car had any accident ever,i guess good hands? UK and car related stuff is expensive.Do you guys still have to pay like 20x insurance just to have higher litrage auto? I believe like 10 years ago it was people driving alot of less than 2 liters engines because insurance was crazy.Here its not so bad,repairs are cheaper,and all old s500 that comes from UK for 500-1000 arent sold too expensive for parts either,s500 injector for example cost like 15 euro,I needed ecu like 5 shops were selling for 100 then found a guy and bought for 30 euro,not sure maybe its same in UK,but then people have parts laying down,especially the ones I need in garage and just want to get rid of them because not many people get idea to repair such damage.I have UK audi c6 in my garaga from years back,my girl crashed it lol.Anyway I sold the most needed parts but whole body and driving stuff is left and when I remove ecu and some rear stuff it will go straight to metal lol,I need those parts only for mercedes,which is even older.Maybe I will find someone who have them laying and dont need like I have with my audi c6.Anyay we are having a talk now.I need somehow to find out if engine is damaged,because if I fix it and I find out its failed,only sensible option left will be to install 55amg motor,which will cost,and replacing engine cost around 800.cl500 engine is around 150-300 euro,with job replacing around 1k,but now thats too much for old cl,only good option would be to add 600 or 55amg engine to get some benefit out of all this mess if i will get into it.maybe its possible to spin some part on engine with hand and if it spins/not/sound get atleast slightest clue about possible damage or make sure everything is good.Im ok with fixing thats visible,im not ok if engine failed ,thats what I need to find out,maybe buying another one as you all noted would be better idea,but only if engine failed.I want to fix this car for principle.
 
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The front wheel must have hit something very hard to break in pieces?

Are you located in one of the former Russian states?
Auto-mechanics from these countries are like real magicians and very good with tools fixing up salvage cars which are many times sold in Europe by crooked importers.
We would call these cars rolling death traps!
 

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