Dashcams can be quite revealing

[flowrider]

I have a dashcam in my ML which recently went in for a routine service, I wont say which dealer! I was surprised at how little time the tech spent actually around the car, I calculated 35mins on the "C" service actually doing something, this was the time the bonnet was open. The rest of the time, approx. 45 mins he was either gone or was sitting in the car chatting to his mate. With the dashcams mic live there were some interesting discussion going on such as what a poorly designed rear bumper the E class has which costs way to much to repair due to a pump or something being postioned behind it that also gets damaged in a collision, or the annoying intermitant problem on the car in the next bay and the techy wishing the owner would take the car somewhere else and lastly my tech seems to have had a great night with his girlfriend:bannana:

Has anyone else got any interesting dealer observations on a dashcam?

 

[Deane x]

let's see the video then

 

[nb_racing]

I calculated 35mins on the "C" service actually doing something, this was the time the bonnet was open

Any time spent under, next to or around the wheels maybe???
What did the dealer say when you confronted them with your evidence? (I'm reading this as a complaint? Apologies if i'm wrong on that)

 

[KillerHERTZ]

Lets see this video then?

 

[robtt]

My car goes in soon for its service and will make sure dash cam on voice record (usually have this turned off)and let you know what happens

 

[markjay]

Sorry to be a spoilsport...

But why evesdrop to other people's private conversations?

It is not like you suspected/caught them doing something wrong to your car?

It is just two mechanics having a private chat (ot so they thought) about their work and their private lives.

I would just delete the recording and not mention it to anyone.

 

[stevehg]

I would just delete the recording and not mention it to anyone.

Sound advice, as secretly filming in this way would open you to prosecution. I certainly wouldn't advise talking to the dealer about this or showing the video to anyone else either privately or publicly.

 

[flowrider]

No video available as I let the camera cycle over the recordings. My only requirement is to be able to capture evidence should I be involved in an accident. The only reason I looked at the video in the first place was to check the dashcam was working correctly as it was newly installed.

Using a dashcam is perfectly legal in the UK and is submissable as evidence in court if required.

 

[flowrider]

Any time spent under, next to or around the wheels maybe???
What did the dealer say when you confronted them with your evidence? (I'm reading this as a complaint? Apologies if i'm wrong on that)

Not a complaint, just an observation.

 

[bob6600]

For me, the OP has vaguely posted what was recorded on his dashcam. I don't see it as a complaint, just information/his experience. No names mentioned, no harm done. There was no malicious damage etc so no need for it to be posted, although I would like to have seen/heard it but I'm just nosey.

 

[stevehg]

Using a dashcam is perfectly legal in the UK and is submissable as evidence in court if required.

Using a dashcam to film on public roads is a whole different ball game to secretly filming people at their place of work on private property without permission. Good luck with claiming that it's legal if you intend doing this in the future.

You are free to do what you like, but as you posted this on a public forum, I was just pointing out that you may want to consider the legal aspects of your actions. Nothing more was intended, and it certainly wasn't to cause confrontation.

Cheers

Steve

 

[flowrider]

Sorry to be a spoilsport...

But why evesdrop to other people's private conversations?.....................

I normally have the mic muted now so only video is recorded, at the time it was a new install and I had the mic turned on.

Its sad but we are all subject to eavesdropping these days, you cant do anything anymore that isnt recorded somewhere. I hear the new ios in the iphone now records everywhere you go, at what time, and how long you are there for! It has been reported that the facebook phone app can send text messages from you phone and take pictures on the camera without your consent! Its a crazy world.

 

[flowrider]

Using a dashcam to film on public roads is a whole different ball game to secretly filming people at their place of work on private property without permission. Good luck with claiming that it's legal if you intend doing this in the future.

You are free to do what you like, but as you posted this on a public forum, I was just pointing out that you may want to consider the legal aspects of your actions. Nothing more was intended, and it certainly wasn't to cause confrontation.

Cheers

Steve

You are of course correct, there is no automatic right to privacy in a public place but there is when in a private place hence why I did not state who or where the dealer is and I have not kept the recording.

 

[John Jones Jr]

Dash cams eh? I think there should be cameras everywhere. Oh, wait they are...It's funny too, all the good drivers that I know don't have dash cameras.

 

[219]

The OP is perfectly entitled to safeguard his property , and to keep a watchful eye over it in this manner .

Had the camera recorded evidence of his vehicle being damaged by misconduct of those to whom he had entrusted it then the evidence would almost certainly have been admissible in court and bleats from the wrongdoers would have little effect on the judiciary . The judge is the sole arbiter of what is admissible and what is not , and a video recording , however obtained , showing outright proof of something is most unlikely to be excluded .

Such filming has been aired on broadcast TV many times , by consumer watchdog type programmes , without legal difficulties .

While the owners of private property can indeed prohibit filming on their premises , for such a prohibition to have legal bearing , they would have to be able to prove that anyone accused of filming was made aware of any prohibition beforehand ( merely erecting a sign in reception is insufficient in itself unless it can be proven to have been brought to the attention of the visitor ) . Furthermore , even if someone disregards such a prohibition and refuses to stop filming/photographing , the only recourse the property owner has is to ask the person to leave ; they have no right to view , seize or force deletion of any recording .

This sort of stuff has been aired and chewed over many times on numerous photographic and video forums .

 

[nb_racing]

At the risk of going slightly tangental to the topic;
What dashcam do you have? I've been thinking about getting one as there are some crazy fools about, as well as the now infamous crash for cash criminals.

Does it autosave if it detects an impact? Does it have a manual save should you happen to witness a comedy moment?
Cheers.

 

[flowrider]

At the risk of going slightly tangental to the topic;
What dashcam do you have? I've been thinking about getting one as there are some crazy fools about, as well as the now infamous crash for cash criminals.

Does it autosave if it detects an impact? Does it have a manual save should you happen to witness a comedy moment?
Cheers.

I have two, the one in my ML is a Tiesfong B40 also known as an A118, my other cam is a Mini0803. Both bought on Amazon. I recommend you peruse the excellent site www.dashcamtalk.com for reviews and chat on the subject. Another good site for reviews is Techmoan - Techmoan

 

[Jeff666]

Interesting.. yes. Actionable maybe. Integretity of poster outstanding.

Who would like the "fly on the wall" ...

J.

 

[A-AvantGarde]

Not quite the same thing, and obviously related to the US - but this article covers a similar issue with a new voice recording feature in the current generation Corvette: Corvette's 'valet mode' is illegal depending on where you live

A little surprised GM or Chevy didn't think that this could be an issue!

 

[stevehg]

What's admissible in court has nothing to do with what is being discussed here. Secretly filming people on someone else's private property in the way posted above leaves you open to prosecution. In the example above, the OP would have very little chance in justifying his actions. I didn't post previously in reference to hypothetical situations.

Such filming has been aired on broadcast TV many times , by consumer watchdog type programmes , without legal difficulties .

Firstly, the media companies have extremely strict guidelines on how to do this and must demonstrate that breaching human rights was in the public interest and that sufficient processes were followed. There are also plenty of examples of when media companies have over stretched the mark and have found themselves in court. I'm not really sure how this is relevant to what was posted.

This sort of stuff has been aired and chewed over many times on numerous photographic and video forums .

Good, so we don't have to go down a rat hole and pages of posts of doing at here then.