Do you indicate after overtaking?

[Sorry Pete]

IIRC when I was learning, I was told it wasn't necessary to indicate to return to the n/s lane after overtaking as it was (should) be expected that I would be returning to the n/s lane.

Some people do, and some don't, and was just wondering what your thoughts are.

I realise that an indication is used to provide information to other road users, so for what it's worth, in the daytime/on busy motorways, I indicate for any lane changes, either o/s or n/s. At night with little traffic, and passing hgv's, only for the overtake, and not for the return to the n/s. Sometimes just flicking the indicator for one flash.

I remember there was a thread re: indicating when joining a motorway. Some thought it necessary, others not. Fwiw, I do as I think any chance to be seen by others is a good idea.

 

[BTB 500]

On multi-lane roads, yes. On single carriageway, no (there are people who do this).

 

[BTB 500]

Sometimes just flicking the indicator for one flash.

The Vito indicators do 3 flashes if you just nudge the lever ... a nice idea.

 

[Sorry Pete]

On multi-lane roads, yes. On single carriageway, no (there are people who do this).

Yeah, I never do on single carriageways.

 

[Baron_Samedi]

I try to remember that I am signalling to road users that I haven't seen rather than the ones I have...

 

[High-Lo]

The Vito indicators do 3 flashes if you just nudge the lever ... a nice idea.

Yep our B Class does the same nice feature..

 

[Baron_Samedi]

And the W209 CLK

 

[corned]

And the 211, but I find it infuriating.

If you accidentally catch the switch, off it goes - 3 flashes to the right - then you immediately compensate by trying to cancel it - 3 flashes to the left, and so it goes on up the road until you realise that everyone around you must think your a complete berk and therefore you don't care any more.

Or it could be just me.

Anyway, back on-thread...!

 

[prprandall51]

And the 211, but I find it infuriating.

If you accidentally catch the switch, off it goes!

I know, soooo annoying. Why can't they tuck those pesky stalks somewhere out of the way? It appears that BMW have solved this issue - perhaps they are in the glovebox?

 

[plgibson]

Surly if your faster then there is no need to indicate that you are returning to the driving lane.
Lets remember the out side lane is only for overtaking or passing slower moving traffic not cruising along in your own little world at 45!!

 

[CE230]

Only if moving from lane 3 in case some berk in lane 1 decides to change lanes without indicating.

 

[st13phil]

Driving in the UK, I will consider whether or not it is beneficial to give a signal before moving to the left after overtaking when on a dual carriageway, but 99 times out of 100 I reach the conclusion that it's not necessary so I don't signal. However, things are different in other countries (e.g. Spain and France) where it is mandatory to signal before moving back after an overtake.

Personally, I prefer the "consider the need for a signal" approach as it reinforces the importance of the observation step before signalling and/or manouvering rather than just engaging in an automatic response to a situation.

 

[Uberwagon]

All the time, even when on single lane roads. When you overtake and the moron half a mile away panics as he doesn't realise the overtake is over and you have pulled in, it's a good indication that you have seen the approaching car and are safely moving back into your lane.

Dave!

 

[st4]

Personally, I prefer the "consider the need for a signal" approach as it reinforces the importance of the observation step before signalling and/or manouvering rather than just engaging in an automatic response to a situation.

x2. One scenario in particular where it may be beneficial to signal after an ovetake on a dual carriage way is if a car behind you is following you closely and has approaced you at a significantly higher speed, a wee signal to say "ive seen you, moving back in" is quite handy to give.

Sometimes if its quiet however I may take the view that no signal to even pass the slower moving vehicle is needed as its obvious from my road position what I am doing, and there is nowt behind me that would benefit from being told I am moving out.

 

[flango]

Driving in the UK, I will consider whether or not it is beneficial to give a signal before moving to the left after overtaking when on a dual carriageway, but 99 times out of 100 I reach the conclusion that it's not necessary so I don't signal. However, things are different in other countries (e.g. Spain and France) where it is mandatory to signal before moving back after an overtake.

Personally, I prefer the "consider the need for a signal" approach as it reinforces the importance of the observation step before signalling and/or manouvering rather than just engaging in an automatic response to a situation.

Bang on advice. but, advanced driving tuition actually states there is no need to signal after overtaking when returning to your original lane. (not that I agree with this, too broad brush for me) However there is always one that will not have seen you so I think the best advice is observe and make a call if a signal is necesscary or not.

 

[SilverSaloon]

many newer cars do the 3 flashes thing with a touch of the stalk. useful and one of those little things that you miss going from a new car to an older W124

 

[st4]

many newer cars do the 3 flashes thing with a touch of the stalk. useful and one of those little things that you miss going from a new car to an older W124

its a nice feature but one trick is just to hold the stalk and count the three flashes. MB is 1st car i had with the one touch indicators

 

[Sorry Pete]

Bang on advice. but, advanced driving tuition actually states there is no need to signal after overtaking when returning to your original lane. (not that I agree with this, too broad brush for me) However there is always one that will not have seen you so I think the best advice is observe and make a call if a signal is necesscary or not.

Agree with this, it's the fact that the advanced driving advice conflicts with using your own judgment that prompted the thread.

BTW, I didn't realise it was mandatory in France and Spain. Is there also the stipulation that indicators should be on throughout the overtake? I'm guessing there is as I've seen it quite a bit on the Autoroutes.

 

[crockers]

The Vito indicators do 3 flashes if you just nudge the lever ... a nice idea.

So does W203...

.oops should have read rest of the thread..

 

[Rashman]

Hey guys.

Something I've noticed about the 3 flash thing:

As we know, if you nudge the stalk, it flashes three times.
If you move the stalk into a "right" or "left" postion, it will continue to indicate until it self cancels (after making your turn) or when you, yourself, move the stalk into the neutral postion.

Now, I actually like to be able to indicate just the once.

I've noticed that if you nudge and hold the stalk for a fraction longer, it will only flash once.
And because you have still only "nudged" the stalk, it returns to neutral postion as you take your finger off it.

Kinda "tricking the system" , as it were!