Dogging (What to do about it)

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  1. brucemillar

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    Looking for some sensible advice please.

    Where I live (Countyside) we have been blighted by "Doggers" - people who enjoy having sex in a public place - usually n the hope that others will either watch them or join in.

    This is not some "age of aquairius love in" with young couples taking advantage of a quiet country lane. The overwhelming majority of these people are adult males who seem absolutely delighted to be viewed in their group activities.

    Recently the problem has got considerably worse. With large groups congregating in the single track lane (up to eight cars at any time) and advertising with directions on the internet.

    The filth that they happily leave behind includes:

    Human excrement.
    Syringes
    Latex gloves
    Pornography
    Soiled underwear.

    The police seem powerless or unlwilling to take any action. Local officers are appalled at what they witness. But tell me that their superiors have stopped them wriying to the registered keeprs of the cars that are parked.

    The doggers (if stopped) have read up on the law. They will happily tell you that "they are on private land" (it is a nature reserve). The owners of the nature reserve default back to the police.

    The Parish Council think that the whole issue is a big joke. It is not on their doorstep.

    I have two young school age girls. We now cannot allow them out explore the nature reserve that we bought out house next too so that they could grow up in the countryside.

    I have been threathened (as have my neighbours) abused. We have had excerment thrown or dumped in our front garden (after we wrote to the local news paper)

    The Police have advised me not to take any direct action.

    We are now looking to try and sell our home but have little hope as the area has been bacoe known as a dogging spot.

    Has anybody suffered from this? or been able to put a stop to it?

    I am looking for helpful answers please. Please believe me any humor I may have found in this has long since gone.

    Bruce
     
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    Video them and put it on you tube
     
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    If the lane were blocked (for example, by a friendly farmer) using logs or rocks or the like, what would the consequences be?

    Is is an access that anyone needs?

    Also, despite the threats, I would have thought that more newspaper exposure (no pun intended) would have been your best bet if the Police/Council aren't interested at present. Publicity usually makes authorities cover their backside.
     
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    If the lane is just used to access a few people? Campaign across the Local Authority (not the Parish Council - ime these people like to 'big' it up in the village and are not keen on 'real' issues) for a gate on the lane.

    Make an appointment for a crime prevention officer to visit. If he can't do anything due to the attitude complain to his superiors.

    Generally become a pain, until somewhere someone begins to notice.
     
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    Get a friendly local farmer to dump a big pile of manure near to where it happens.
    That should help to cool their ardour.
     
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    Find out the addresses through the DVLA checking the registered keepers and go and knock on their doors.

    I'd be surprised if a bit of embarrassment wouldn't work.
     
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    Thanks for the replys.

    The lane is a "cut through" and It is barely maintained. However the the local council are unwilling to close it. They are looking at putting up bollards to stop the cars parking on the verges. However the Police believe that hese will simply be flattened by the 4x4 types (as has happened in other locations).

    What are the ramifications of puting up a web site and publishing their pictures and car reg numbers?

    What I do not want is for others to view it and think that they will join in.
     
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    You will run the risk of people thinking that you're the 'pimp' who's organising/publicising the event.
     
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    All chip in and plonk some of those massive concrete blocks at the entrance of the track.

    Or phone the police and tell them you've seen someone going 34 mph in a 30, that'll make them notice.
     
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    Hold a clay pigeon shoot in the lane.
    Lots of locals with shotguns would stop them
     
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    You need to get a good lawyer. You say its a nature reserve--- who exactly owns it. Perhaps its time to embarrass them? If its a national organisation time to write to their president and governing body members individually complete with photographs. Throw in a few lines about littering and pollution of the countryside You might hint you have always admired their organisation but that shortly you may have to go to the national press about their indifference to your plight. :dk:
     
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    In that case, block it (properly and substantially) and let others worry about the consequences.

    They will move on when they can't get past the boulders/logs/concrete/manure etc.

    Direct action with less risk to you and yours.

    I'm all for staying within the law but you need a quick/cheap/effective fix while the legal wheels turn (very slowly).
     
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    I'm guessing that you could not block both entrances. Without a gate, you chance making it even quieter and more attractive... If your blocking one end, I personally think you need a gate at the other.
     
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    I thought this was going to be an instructional post.
     
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    It is. It's sordid down South....
     
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    Pragmatic, or just reflecting a 'can't be ar$ed' attitude?

    The problem is that having sex in public places is not an offence, and this reply to someone else's concerns makes you wonder how many polite ways can we be told to get stuffed?

    If large Neighbourhood Watch groups can't hinder the situation, wasn't there a strong rumour that this was organised prostitution that the police should be investigating?
     
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    Be careful about thinking of using a video camera to film anyone:

    Dogging sign shocks tourists in Cotswolds | Mail Online

    I can't imagine an easy way to have this stopped, other than pressing home the points you have mentioned to the local authority more. MP's, Council, and most of all the Police.

    Finally keep at getting the lane blocked from both ends somehow, as that surely has to be the best long term solution.
     
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    How about something a little less drastic?

    Get together a few amiable people who live in the area, and host a few "street bbqs", parties and other social events in said location for a few evenings...

    I doubt said doggers would remain if they noticed a large group of friendly people sipping a beer... and after a few such failed events word would spread that the site is not longer so "hot"...

    M.
     
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    I'm sorry. Dogging is prety bad but I think sipping a bear in public is absolutely disgusting and it is not at all clear that the bear even enjoys it.
     
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