SpoonJar
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I suppose somebody has to pay for immigrants.
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We should all be driving V6 petrols.
probably not that many as most delivery and courier vans are quite new.
Cars are not really the real problem here, there was an experiment recently where a guy who lives in the suburbs was fitted with some kind of air quality monitor on his daily journey to work in London.
From the minute he woke up and cycled to the train station the air quality was fine but the journey on the train to London showed the exhaust from a diesel train actually lowers the air quality inside the carraiges a great deal, which was a big surprise.
Similiary, from the station to his office air was very poor in any street that had a lot of buses & taxis present. Not sure how another tax on cars is going to change anything.
That is the same as Glasgow city centre's Hope Street, the most polluted air in the city and the street is always full of buses & taxis, most cars avoid it.
Russ
It is also one way , steeply uphill in places , with traffic lights at every junction , so these things will be factors .
And we all know the roads authorities favourite way to control the flow of traffic is to time the traffic light sequence to make sure cars have to stop at each set. The roads authorities are part of the problem too, maybe they should pay a special tax?
Russ
Thanks.As nobody else seems to have posted the TFL link, here it is:
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone
Its a big ruse to disguise another motoring tax, as you have pointed out if they wanted to get serious they would go after the real polluters.Cars are not really the real problem here, there was an experiment recently where a guy who lives in the suburbs was fitted with some kind of air quality monitor on his daily journey to work in London.
From the minute he woke up and cycled to the train station the air quality was fine but the journey on the train to London showed the exhaust from a diesel train actually lowers the air quality inside the carraiges a great deal, which was a big surprise.
Similiary, from the station to his office air was very poor in any street that had a lot of buses & taxis present. Not sure how another tax on cars is going to change anything.
That is the same as Glasgow city centre's Hope Street, the most polluted air in the city and the street is always full of buses & taxis, most cars avoid it.
Russ
When EVs are popular and tax intake goes down, new taxes will come in for EVs don't you worry about it.This is not unreasonable. The current Congestion Charge is based on greenhouse gas emissions, and not on emissions affecting air quality. The new charge should tackle that.
But the real issue (yet again) lack of 'Brunelism'.... i.e. no vision, foresight or investment. We all know that the only answer to poor air quality (and poor health for residents) in our busy cities is use of EVs. This won't happen until someone finds the billions required to invest in charging infrastructure (i.e. a charging point at every parking place, not just a couple at the street corner), and more nuclear power plants.
But when the cost is mentioned ministers (and Mayors) cough and look at the ceiling... then go back to their offices to draft yet another tax bill that is supposed to resolve the issue (it won't) but in reality will only generate more income to allow them to implement those unrelated short-term policies that will get them reelected.... and so it goes.
As nobody else seems to have posted the TFL link, here it is:
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra-low-emission-zone
Thanks.
The link shows that diesel cars registered after September 1st 2015 are exempt from the tax.
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