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e55 super charger pulley info needed

kalvin928

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Hi
my car is already remapped with modified crankshaft bearing and larger cooler... really the last thing I can consider is the modified super charger pulley....
is this one ok?
MERCEDES AMG PERFORMANCE PULLEY sl55 slk55 clk55 e55 c55 g55 s55 cl55 cls55 55 | eBay

can this be fitted by any competent garage... I understand sometimes it better to pay more for quality, however has anyone got 1st impressions on this item? even after taking customs tax into mind, still a lot cheaper than getting one sourced in Uk, yes/ no? and I am presuming once fitted, car will need another remap to get it all set up?
 
Why does your vehicle get described as a Kleemans 600 BHP under your avatar but then you say it isnt Kleeman or 600BHP in your sig?
 
long story but will be revising... guy who sold it was a bit naughty/ mis described.. being a novice, I should have known better
 
redbaron said:
thanks - but thats a shame. :(

Yes but actually had i known everything i do now, i probably would have bought car anyway...just small nighly problems... Anyway need some help with my query pls

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Speak to any of the e55 crew on here , Paul ( savman ) for example.

They are well up on these , and will tell you the best place to source one from.
 
The Supercharger pulley in the EBay advert does look like the one you can buy from Eurocharged (or via MSL / PCS / PCD / Rebellion). However, it could be a copy, or it could be one of the first generation of these pulleys (none Eurocharged) of which there were a few that were problematic. Saying that the second generation haven't been perfect and I believe that a third generation is now in circulation, or at least is / will be through Eurocharged.

Cost wise then I think that Acid at MSL was doing the pulley and map for around £800 but you would need to check with him, you would need to add a small amount for fitting. So by the time you have bought this one off EBay it'll probably stand you at £450, say another £50 to fit, or £100 if they don't know what they are doing, then on top of that a remap at say £300-£400, so you may as well go down the tried and tested route.....


Jules.

Ps how come your torque figure is so high? What actual mods do you currently have pulley wise?
 
many thanks for being so informative!!! Had issues with exhaust... no cats and lambda sensors... ran fine BUT didn't want problems at MOT time so Andy at PCD has put the primary cats back and lambda sensors... and did the x-pipe work for me. who ever did the exhaust blanked the EML light off due to sensors... again not happy at this.... the torque figures were before the exhaust was done... so no doubt will have come down :(( however now thinking about getting the supercharger pulley done and this will then do me....
 
many thanks for being so informative!!! Had issues with exhaust... no cats and lambda sensors... ran fine BUT didn't want problems at MOT time so Andy at PCD has put the primary cats back and lambda sensors... and did the x-pipe work for me. who ever did the exhaust blanked the EML light off due to sensors... again not happy at this.... the torque figures were before the exhaust was done... so no doubt will have come down :(( however now thinking about getting the supercharger pulley done and this will then do me....


Please don't take this the wrong way but when you say the last thing you can consider you could not be further from the truth, your car is pretty much standard with very limited mods from what I can see. Please correct me if I am wrong but from what I can see your car has

Crank Pulley - not sure what size?
Heat Exchanger - again not sure what size.
Remap
X-pipe

As for the adding the smaller SC pulley, if I were you I would NOT do it your car is unlikely to be any faster and you could risk the engine.

Looking at your spec in your signature you have standard injectors, standard headers, standard throttle body and still have your primary cats.

Your primary cats and headers will restrict flow so you will be running very high boost which will create significant heat.

Your cooling won't cope, I see you have a johnson pump and you mention having a heat exchanger but is the system split so the SC cooling system is separate from the engine coolant circuit? If not your probably already struggling to deal with the heat from your crank pulley never mind the increase.

Then you need to look at fuelling, what size crank pulley do you have?
If its any bigger than 172 you may well struggle to add enough fuel once you add the smaller SC pulley so will need to think about increasing your injector size. I would also suggest you look at replacing your fuel pump/filter units under the rear passenger seats at the same time especially if your car is over 80K mileage.

Finally if you have a stock throttle body and intake then spinning your supercharger faster means it will just be working harder trying to get air through the restriction which once again will create more heat.

Hopefully you get the picture heat and fuelling will be your biggest problems.

My suggestion based on your current spec in order would be

1. Split the cooling and add either a tank in the engine bay or in the boot where the spare wheel goes.
2. Fit Kleemann Headers but you will have no cats so you will need to fit sports cats
3. Larger Throttle Body and intake that has a larger area at the y-piece
4. Larger injectors and change your fuel pumps if you have more than 80K miles on the car
5. Smaller SC pulley

Step 1 you could do for the same cost as having a SC pulley fitted and a remap. You will likely see an increase in power at RPM but more importantly your car will be faster and will have repeatable power.
 
Hi SAVMAN
REALLY appreciate your feedback and knowledge on the matter... I will be speaking to ANDY at PCD in next few days and showing him your reply and will persuaded to go that way... it could be that some of the mods I have mentioned are incorrect.. as when I bought the car, guy stated loads of stuff, and being novice I should have been more careful... amending my signature/ avatar details is proof of this... I will come back in few days after speaking to Andy and getting specific listing of the so called 'mods' that have been done and if you have the time just confirm your conclusion... again many thanks
 
Hi SAVMAN
REALLY appreciate your feedback and knowledge on the matter... I will be speaking to ANDY at PCD in next few days and showing him your reply and will persuaded to go that way... it could be that some of the mods I have mentioned are incorrect.. as when I bought the car, guy stated loads of stuff, and being novice I should have been more careful... amending my signature/ avatar details is proof of this... I will come back in few days after speaking to Andy and getting specific listing of the so called 'mods' that have been done and if you have the time just confirm your conclusion... again many thanks

No problem, Andy is a great guy.

Couple of things to help you

1. Headers are easy to spot the MB ones are log style like this

http://www.mbclub.co.uk/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=39124&stc=1&d=1379869072


2. Crank pulley - just measure the diameter stock is around 157/158 on the external lip not the ribbed portion.


3. Heat exchanger - stock one has black plastic covers on the end tanks.

4. TB - remove the air filter and Y assembly and measure the internal diameter a stock one is 74m
 

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Some great advice there.

I went on the assumption that the car has a standard pulley but is running a remap for the 527bhp.

As Paul has mentioned, check the crank pulley size first, if it is standard then you can go for the smaller supercharger pulley and remap. With a bit of luck you may hit 560bhp. If the pulley is a larger pulley then as Paul says, if it is larger than 172 then you'll need better cooling to get the best from it. But if it is 172 or 168 then I'd get a decent map applied, as it should be making more than 527bhp.
 

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