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  1. Adam230K

    Adam230K Hardcore MB Enthusiast

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    Hey guys i'm quite new to ebay at the moment and i was wondering if someone could clarify something. I'm selling some stuff from my car on there, and the auctions are going really well... but for one item in particular (the catalysts) i listed that the only method of payment was cash on collection.

    Now my question is, what if someone wins the auction and then asks me to ship it to them? How will i be able to secure the rest of the money off him? I've heard that if paypal is used then he can just open a dispute, or it will just not go through? because its not happening through ebay?

    Can anyone clarify how instant and reliable the payments on paypal are? and how can i know that money is well-and-truely mine and its impossible for them to get it back?

    Dont mind my ignorance... i've only started e-trading last month.. ;)

    Help appreciated as usual fellas.
     
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    If they use paypal and pay for an item, it takes a few days but the money is transferred to your account when you approve it. If the buyer has 100% feedback I doubt they're going to be as petty as to strike a dispute against you. If you doubt their feedback you can remove their bid IIRC.

    With paypal payments, a fee will be subtracted before you get your payment. Have you not stipulated how much shipping will cost?

    If you want them to pay for the item using paypal, you can send them an invoice for the full amount which they then accept (sent to the email address paypal is registered to) and they send you the funds.
     
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    paypal is instant, and you can withdraw to your bank instantly too.......ive been using ebay for 5 years and only had one dispute......a dispute is only likely if you have described badly.......buyer would have to return the goods to you anyway
     
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    Mate its not instant you have to wait a few days for the funds to clear before you can withdraw them. Once they send you the funds they can't back out of the sale as they will be transferred.
     
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    PayPal Is not instant!

    it is a few days wait for the funds to clear, as described by NW_Merc and also true is the fact that PayPal will take a % of the money....

    Personally i am not a fan of PayPal as they will do anything to get money back even if it is not justified, though it is compulsory when selling items on Ebay.
    You MUST offer that as a payment option...

    So to sell on Ebay you must have a PayPal Account. Just the way it is
     
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    It's even slower than a few days... if you're a new seller, have low feedback or some other conditions (I'll try pulling up the link). Paypal can and will withold th funds in their account until the buyer either leaves positive feedback or 21 days (whichever is sooner)... or some ridiculous amount of days like that...

    Paypal is wonderful for buyers&scammers, but hell for sellers...
     
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    I think to sell on ebay.co.uk you need a paypal account, but I've seen sellers on german ebay saying bank transfer or cash on collection and they don't offer paypal.
     
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    Hmmm... hope i've stated clearly that cash on collection is preffered... hope thats what happens... i dont want to go through paypal when selling things at all... :(
     
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    unfortunately Ebay is a monopoly.
    Yes clearly state that COD is the preferred.
    But they can pay through paypal.

    But realistically if they are coming to your place
    to pick up the item it is much easier for both parties
    to exchange cash then.

    You'd hope :)
     
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    Unfortunately this isn't the case, they buyer, if they paid by credit card, can simply choose to process a chargeback via their card provider.....

    Paypal simply don't defend these....the buyer keeps the goods Paypal try and recover what they consider "Their money".

    This is the important bit......Once you've opened a Paypal account, remove your bank details, particularly the direct debit, and any cards on the account.

    Paypal will remove the funds without permission, they will not defend chargebacks....

    A Chargeback opens a dispute in the paypal system.....in my particular case, paypal said they were defending the chargeback, yet they instructed debt collectors before the dispute had even been finalised. I avoid them at all possible costs.

    For more paypal antics...read here:-

    http://www.paypalsucks.com/
     
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    Another dirty trick that can be played on you with a buyer using paypal:

    If you sell an item that is large, say a fridge freezer or similar that obviously cannot be posted economically. So you state 'collection only'.
    The buyer can pay by paypal, collect the item and then register a claim on the grounds that they have not received the item.
    Paypal will then claw the money back from your paypal account and there is nothing you can do.
    So, you might (as I did) state that paypal is not accepted on this item intending that the buyer pays you by other means. A common sense approach? Yes, but ebay will then cancel your listing as a breach of policy by not offering paypal and you will forfeit the listing fee.
    Paypal are a law unto themselves.
     
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    Yeh PayPal have no rules, i would never sell threw Ebay.
    I have had a horrible experience using Ebay, so i'm
    done with it.

    If you are going to sell, be careful :)
    keep all postage receipts and if pay on pick up
    get them to sign something saying they have

    cheers :)
     
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    Well now i'm stuck again. I've sold the item, but the moron who bought it doesn't want to step up and pay for it. So what exactly do i do? leave bad feedback or that second chance offer thing? i'm not quite sure what to do here.
     
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    Sadly you cannot leave bad feedback anymore as a seller!

    Just leave it otherwise the buyer might leave you poor feedback which you really don't need.

    Next time you list you can block buyers who do not have a paypal account, whilst this is no guarantee you will get your money it eliminates a few more who possibly don't want to pay you.
     
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    ive been using ebay since 1999 and now its actually better to buy a metal bin & a 4ft long bit of iron pipe and put the bin on your head and whenever you get the idea to sell stuff on ebay just put the bin on your head and ask friends to hit the bin with the pipe as hard as possible for an hour or so until the idea has gone

    i have 2 account for selling different types of things and i hate it, paypal screw you, ebay screw you and between them they seem determend to to **** you every time
     
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