Tuercas viejas
MB Enthusiast
You want electric classic cars?
How's about a 1909 Baker Electric?
Tuercas Viejas
How's about a 1909 Baker Electric?
Tuercas Viejas
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There is a flaw in your logic, do you really think any car built today will be around in 20 years time? Firstly it will fall apart and be too expensive to repair like say when the wiring loom gets damaged and secondly young folks of today are cut from a different cloth to what we were, we repair stuff they recycle and buy a new unless its a wardrobe or some other piece of shite furniture that can be sanded down and painted and then they call it repurposing i believeIt's not quite the same thing though. Even if you need to have (say) new valves or pistons machined up from scratch for your Ferrari in 20 years time it will still be the same engine, and the car will be unchanged. You won't be forced to fit an entirely different powerplant.
In 20 years time you won't be able to fit a direct replacement Li Ion pack to your classic Tesla - who knows what battery/charging technology we'll be using then. So given enough money you can certainly have a completely different power source installed, but of course it won't integrate with any of the car's systems (charging, capacity measurement, cooling/heating, range, etc.). By the time that's all been replaced there won't be much of the original car left bar the bodyshell & wheels. It will look the same from the outside but that's about it ... not much different to electrifying a Ferrari now?!
There's also the money aspect - classic cars as we know them know will cease to exist as the cost of doing this type of highly specialised work will make it inaccessible to all but the Jay Lenos etc. of the world. Not like spannering an old IC engined car in your garage. We're already seeing this now with classic aircraft. Front-line fighter aircraft from WW1 and WW2 can be (and are) operated & maintained by small groups of volunteers. Who is going to be able to run an F-35 or Eurofighter 50 years from now? We've already seen the grounding of the last remaining Vulcan and Concorde aircraft because maintaining one in airworthy condition isn't feasible for even major corporations - and this is stone age technology in comparison to the latest EVs (which are basically computers on wheels).
Don't see me putting an Electric Motor in any of the Imps anytime soon.
Would lose the appeal of the car for
I don't like to see cars in museums , but I would rather have that than see... but not hear a 1969 Maserati Miura go by sounding like a silenced vacuum cleaner.
I certainly hope notYou'll never see such a thing.
When I heard that hybrids were being bought as company cars for the tax benefits but driven as IC..... The same is alluded to for hybrid taxis elsewhere on this forum.In reply to this, I would pose the question- when is a hybrid not a hybrid? It's a terminological inexactitude derived from its biological origins where one species breeds with another implying a 50-50 contribution to the final product. Certainly until recently and helped by the introduction of plug-in versions hybrid motor cars were not propelled by a 50-50 mix of power sources . Checking on the Toyota Prius battery specifications for 2014 it appeared to be equipped the 1.5kw-hour NiMH battery - 2VW30 model and the later 2VW35 plug-in model 4.4kW-hour Li-ion battery meaning could travel very few miles on battery power alone. It might be best described as an IC vehicle with enhanced stop start technology or perhaps with an electronically enhanced transmission. Toyota is not the only manufacturer to blur the hybrid definition and I'm sure their engineering is well thought out with improved MPG but sooner or later without an increased battery capacity I fear the emission regulatory authorities will cotton on to the fact it's essentially an IC car. So I am slightly puzzled Toyota have not developed more pure EV models?
Toyota Prius (XW30) - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
When I heard that hybrids were being bought as company cars for the tax benefits but driven as IC..... The same is alluded to for hybrid taxis elsewhere on this forum.
What seems to have died a death and I don't understand why is the EV with range extender. Distinct from hybrid in that its ICE is never mechanically coupled to the wheels I thought this a viable solution to the range anxiety problem while still allowing in essence a pure EV architecture. Was it lack of OEM experience with suitable (small) ICEs for range extenders that killed them or some other reason?
A year-long test of a BMW i3 Range Extender: what did we learn?
Real-world long-term test review of the BMW i3 Range-Extender 94Ah (REX) by CAR magazinewww.carmagazine.co.uk
The range extender I am familiar with is BMW i3--- I'm guessing it stemmed from an era when battery technology realistically permitted range measured in double rather than treble figures. In the later versions of the i3 the REX [extended range] option was quietly dropped when battery capacity[ kWhr ] range was increased, before model itself was dropped . BMW claimed they lost money on the car but I suspect the truth is they made profit just not enough profit! Great pity because it was one of the first true EV models designed from the floor up rather than the let's stick and electric motor and battery into an existing model because it's cheaper/more profitable approach.
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I don't think it was removed for technical reasons because if anyone knows how to make small compact twin cylinder engines BMW does----it did have a very small petrol tank however because it was a range extender rather than an alternatIve power source as pointed out.
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