EQE 300 range?

[MikeInWimbledon]

Yes, most cars come with a 3 pin plug (3kw) charge lead as well and yes it can be used as top ups, but very slowly, as an example roughly 5 extra miles per hour charge with this system.

Is the EQE slower to charge than most EV’s ?

In the UK it’s just under 10 miles an hour, which is fine for a 150 miles top up overnight, or 40 miles in four hours. (Albeit that it’s slows after 80% full.)

I toured with a Tesla happily just using my AirBnB’s domestic supply to top up at 3 miles / hour overnight. (Domestic electricity is just 110v over there). It was fine for local touring.

(Not useful for those who drive from John O’Groats to Land End regularly, but fine for local work)

 

[MeQ]

Is the EQE slower to charge than most EV’s ?

In the UK it’s just under 10 miles an hour, which is fine for a 150 miles top up overnight, or 40 miles in four hours. (Albeit that it’s slows after 80% full.)

I toured with a Tesla happily just using my AirBnB’s domestic supply to top up at 3 miles / hour overnight. (Domestic electricity is just 110v over there). It was fine for local touring.

(Not useful for those who drive from John O’Groats to Land End regularly, but fine for local work)

80% takes approx 9 hours on a 7.2kw charger

 

[stressd]

So it would seem you can expect 300 miles in winter and 370 in summer, or 240 and 300 when charginging up to 80%. That should cover most days out.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

80% takes approx 9 hours on a 7.2kw charger

Obviously, but what’s that got to do with the price of fish?

You commute 25 miles to work and drive 25 miles back. You’ve done 50 miles.

You plug it in to your garage or kitchen three pin socket, and in five hours you’re back to where you were.

Plug it in for 12 hours, from 7pm to 7am and you’ve replaced those 50 miles and added another 70.

For wage slaves in rented accommodation, it’s the routine process.

Or are you saying that you need to drive more than 170 miles every day, five days a week ?

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

So it would seem you can expect 300 miles in winter and 370 in summer, or 240 and 300 when charginging up to 80%. That should cover most days out.

Got a day out planned? Just charge it up to 100%. That’ll give you six or seven hours staring out that windscreen.

 

[BoristheBounce]

Is the EQE slower to charge than most EV’s ?

In the UK it’s just under 10 miles an hour, which is fine for a 150 miles top up overnight, or 40 miles in four hours. (Albeit that it’s slows after 80% full.)

I toured with a Tesla happily just using my AirBnB’s domestic supply to top up at 3 miles / hour overnight. (Domestic electricity is just 110v over there). It was fine for local touring.

(Not useful for those who drive from John O’Groats to Land End regularly, but fine for local work)

Mines the EQC, I'm quoting, @ official figures it would have it @ 8.1 miles per hour but as at present I'm getting about 170 miles not 243 miles so its actually only about 5 miles per hour charging from a 3kw 3 pin plug charger. any car would be the same, however it probably in reality charges to the lower figure (170 miles) faster than the 5miles/hour and just stops when it gets to the maximum miles.

My home charger is 7kw therefore officially will give me about 19miles per hour charged.

As mine is a 90 kw battery a total charge at home would take all night, 12.85 hours.

A 150kw motorway charger from empty would take about 35/40mins.

Hope this makes sense.

 

[ALFAitalia]

Sadly the same is true for all lease cars, both ICE and EVs.

When you get a new car on a 3 years lease ... are you really going to drive gently until the engine reaches operating temperature... every morning? Slowing for speed bumps to protect the undercarriage and suspension? Etc.

Some people have mechanical sympathy (I do) and will treat every piece of machinery as if it's there's for life. But sadly most don't bother...

A bit off topic.....but when I was selling Audi's (and VW) lots of the leased and company owned cars came in for servicing in a terrible state. Dents, full of rubbish, clearly thrashed etc.

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

Mines the EQC, I'm quoting, @ official figures it would have it @ 8.1 miles per hour but as at present I'm getting about 170 miles not 243 miles so its actually only about 5 miles per hour charging from a 3kw 3 pin plug charger. any car would be the same, however it probably in reality charges to the lower figure (170 miles) faster than the 5miles/hour and just stops when it gets to the maximum miles.

My home charger is 7kw therefore officially will give me about 19miles per hour charged.

As mine is a 90 kw battery a total charge at home would take all night, 12.85 hours.

A 150kw motorway charger from empty would take about 35/40mins.

Hope this makes sense.

So have you ever actually used a granny cable connected to a three pin socket?

I don’t see the point of quoting total charge numbers.

While it does make sense to have a purpose built charger and line for long term charging to take advantage of late night and off peak charging rates, if you look around you you can see people are using granny cables all over the place.

The EV slogan is Always Be Charging,

not charge when you’re nearly empty.

 

[MeQ]

Obviously, but what’s that got to do with the price of fish?

You commute 25 miles to work and drive 25 miles back. You’ve done 50 miles.

You plug it in to your garage or kitchen three pin socket, and in five hours you’re back to where you were.

Plug it in for 12 hours, from 7pm to 7am and you’ve replaced those 50 miles and added another 70.

For wage slaves in rented accommodation, it’s the routine process.

Or are you saying that you need to drive more than 170 miles every day, five days a week ?

I was answering the first part of your post… is the EQE slower to charge than most Ev’s?

 

[markjay]

No, but I think the manufacturers are quite open about battery performance / range degrading with age and usage, and that regularly charging to 100% will accelerate this.

The 8 year battery warranty for my EV states that if the battery's capacity is degraded by 20% or more, the battery will be replaced under warranty. Surely that's enough to put at ease the mind of anyone buying my car second hand at the end of my lease period?

 

[ALFAitalia]

Maybe.....but not when "they" have to sell it when it's 6 or 7 years old....and that's what I'd be thinking about.
Almost the same reason I would not buy a used diesel now......uncertain (and likely pretty poor) future residual values.

 

[markjay]

Maybe.....but not when "they" have to sell it when it's 6 or 7 years old....and that's what I'd be thinking about.
Almost the same reason I would not buy a used diesel now......uncertain (and likely pretty poor) future residual values.

By the time the car will be 8 years old, it will most likely be on its third or fourth owner. There's a limit to how far down the line you can worry about these things...

 

[Bellow]

The EV slogan is Always Be Charging,

not charge when you’re nearly empty.

Yet, Markjay says charge when you need to not just because you can and this is what will make the use of public chargers viable. Markjay of course does actually have an EV. He wasn't deterred by a 3-Series being in some unspecified way nicer or that some Teslas have frameless side windows.

 

[BoristheBounce]

So have you ever actually used a granny cable connected to a three pin socket?

Yes, when I moved to my new house and the charger was moved from my old house there were a few problems and I had to use the 3 pin plug charger, its fine if you aren't doing many miles because for a full charge from empty it would take 30 hours. But as long as you are just "topping up" its fine to plug in overnight. I also topped up while I was in the office once or twice around the same time.

 

[markjay]

Yet, Markjay says charge when you need to not just because you can and this is what will make the use of public chargers viable. Markjay of course does actually have an EV. He wasn't deterred by a 3-Series being in some unspecified way nicer or that some Teslas have frameless side windows.

My W204 was nicer....

Nothing wrong with the IONIQ 5, mind.

But the W204 was a joy to own.

 

[MeQ]

Yet, Markjay says charge when you need to not just because you can and this is what will make the use of public chargers viable. Markjay of course does actually have an EV. He wasn't deterred by a 3-Series being in some unspecified way nicer or that some Teslas have frameless side windows.

Nothing wrong with frameless side windows

 

[BTB 500]

The 8 year battery warranty for my EV states that if the battery's capacity is degraded by 20% or more, the battery will be replaced under warranty. Surely that's enough to put at ease the mind of anyone buying my car second hand at the end of my lease period?

Presumably warranties vary though. IIRC Tesla replace at 30% degraded, which is a fair chunk of range to have lost. No idea about others.

And if at 8 years old (or whatever your particular warranty period is) the car still has the original battery you'd have to be pretty brave to buy it. Which will surely affect the value - an 8 year old ICE car with average mileage and good service history is still very much a going concern.

 

[markjay]

Presumably warranties vary though. IIRC Tesla replace at 30% degraded, which is a fair chunk of range to have lost. No idea about others.

And if at 8 years old (or whatever your particular warranty period is) the car still has the original battery you'd have to be pretty brave to buy it. Which will surely affect the value - an 8 year old ICE car with average mileage and good service history is still very much a going concern.

Brave? Possibly, but only because it's currently an unknown quantity.

In time, we'll know for certain if EV batteries die after the warranty expires, or perhaps most provide good service with reasonable range for the life of the car (which is the more likely scenario, IMO).

Once the unknown becomes known (and I am not related to one D Rumsfeld...), the fear will evaporate, hopefully.

 

[BTB 500]

In time, we'll know for certain if EV batteries die after the warranty expires, or perhaps most provide good service with reasonable range for the life of the car (which is the more likely scenario, IMO).

'Life of the car' is the big one there. My SL is 26 years old ... the chance of any EV being driveable on the original Li Ion battery at that sort of age would be zero IMHO. Pretty unlikely to even make it to 16 years (the age of my Vito).

 

[MikeInWimbledon]

I was answering the first part of your post… is the EQE slower to charge than most Ev’s?

By saying that it isn’t with a wall charger, having just said that it charges at only half the speed of its competitors with a granny cable.

Have you actually seen it charge that slowly with a three in socket? Because you’re certainly saying the MB EV is not as good as its rivals.