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First time driving rwd, auto and diesel

Quadcam

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I've had my c270 about 12 days now. I came from driving an audi tt quattro. So very different cars.
First rwd car I've driven, first diesel ive owned and first automatic I've driven.
I general find driving the car easy and the handling is ok. The car has a lot of service history and is in excellent condition all round, apart from a few minor issues.
I am having a bit of occasional difficulty getting out of some corners from a standstill, turning right I've span up the wheels and had the car almost sideways, not in a dangerous manner but I've had to correct it. This surprises me as I don't think the car is particular fast or powerful, I've owned cars much more poweful albeit petrol. I'm not even trying to get out particularly fast. This is even in very slight damp conditions.
Coming off roundabouts and then into a turn, in the damp I have been cautious, as again not going fast but using the throttle I almost had a moment when the rear end came out. The esp kicked in and did its thing.

I know coming from a 4wd car, which was brilliant even in very wet conditions means I will have to get used to the rwd.
And I suppose in time I will get used to the diesel torque.
I am wondering if putting it in c mode is the correct course of action in anything but dry conditions?
Esp is always on I did try it without briefly and soon turned it back on.
I find I'm getting a throttle response lag too which I've done some reading on, I almost have got used to it, on occasion its caught me a bit surprised when the acceleration does come on. I'm thinking of getting a sprint booster since many have said its improved the response time.
Maybe the hankook ventus prime 3 tyres fitted are not as suited to wetter conditions.

Any advice on driving techniques or is this simply a case of getting used to a very different car?
 
If you are expecting TT power delivery and grip you’ve bought the wrong car..

You have half the grip and probably similar power and torque..

Just take some time to get used to it...
 
If you are expecting TT power delivery and grip you’ve bought the wrong car..

You have half the grip and probably similar power and torque..

Just take some time to get used to it...

Wasn't expecting anything near to the handling of the tt. Just the ease of putting the thing sideways certainly surprised me. I thought with the car size, diesel and the auto it would be very tame. I think an auto box while easy to drive has certain characteristics too.
 
Anyone who gets a diesel c class sideways is driving pretty hard ...
 
Had those Hankook tyres on my V6 CLK - they are good in the wet unless you really are pressing on.
I allow the power to come on as the revs rise, don't go looking for it or boost will catch you out as it sounds like it is to go sideways - you have a slower car out of the blocks, with less grip - get used to it before the snow hits....
 
MB have a long standing trait of having a very low 1st gear, in my experience much lower than other makes. In compensation they usually start in 2nd but if you floor it from a standstill they will start in 1st and easily lose traction.
 
It's obviously difficult to comment without actually driving the car.

That said, there are quite a few things that can affect the handling (assuming ESP/ABS/TC are fully operational).

Condition of road, make and wear or tyres, tyre air pressures, condition of rear dampers and other rear suspension components, and suspension geometry.

Ultimately any RWD car can be driven to become tail-happy, but if you feel that the travel is excessive then get the car checked e.g. at Wheels-inmotion.
 
Don't drive it in C. S will make no difference to your fuel consumption, especially with the fantastic 270 engine, but will make it much more responsive, especially at junctions, traffic lights and roundabouts etc
 
Anyone who gets a diesel c class sideways is driving pretty hard ...

I personally don't feel I am. I've driven all sorts of cars albeit not as said rwd or auto and I'm not looking to make a fast exit. The car will light up its rear tyres seemingly easy.
Perhaps the time in 4wd cars have spoiled me.
 
A couple of things --1. diesels tend to develop maximum torque at very low revs compared to petrols.
2. Mercedes seem to retain a slightly strange accelerator pedal action whereby it has an initial dead band where nothing seems to happen causing the inexperienced to depress the pedal harder and the power then comes in with a rush.Experienced MB drivers learn to kick through this dead band travel rapidly but follow up by immediate feathering of action once the active part of the travel is reached. Difficult to describe but you will soon adapt your accelerator technique to suit.
 
It's obviously difficult to comment without actually driving the car.

That said, there are quite a few things that can affect the handling (assuming ESP/ABS/TC are fully operational).

Condition of road, make and wear or tyres, tyre air pressures, condition of rear dampers and other rear suspension components, and suspension geometry.

Ultimately any RWD car can be driven to become tail-happy, but if you feel that the travel is excessive then get the car checked e.g. at Wheels-inmotion.

It does need the tracking adjusted a bit and a wheel balanced a bit better so perhaps I will get it all checked out.
The car has benefited from front and rear suspension rebuilds relatively recently. It drives as well as much newer cars bar the above issues.
 
Hmmm.... car handles poorly after suspension rebuild... makes you wonder.

I would start with full geometry check and adjustment.

Not sure I would say handles poorly at all, I did say it needs a slight tracking adjustment and a wheel balanced, it is tight as a drum otherwise. Yeah it will go sideways if I spin the tyres. The car is in excellent condition, and had a lot of money spent on it in its recent past and is relatively low in miles 120k.

I shall get it checked as your advice, in case something is knocking the handling out. I do think its the driver though.

Too add I do find the suspension a bit soft it's a avantgarde which I though had firmer suspension. This maybe is me thinking its overly soft compared to previous more sporty cars owned.
 
I can only think your rear tyres are well worn or gone hard. Im driving a c250 w204 with winters on and can pull away with none of those issues either in sport or comfort mode. You should try comfort in the wet as it pulls away in 2nd gear and less prone to spinning.
 

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