Garaging a C180

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  1. Aquila

    Aquila New Member

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    Can anyone help me with an exact wing-mirror-tip to wing-mirror-tip measurement for the C180 Classic 1996?

    Web sites variously give the width of the C180 as 1723mm, 1725mm, 1728mm and 5'9". This must be measurement without the wing mirrors - I have a garage with a width of 1958mm, and the car is clearly wider.

    I'm considering replacing the garage door, and reckon I could get the width up to 2075mm. Will the C180 fit?
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  2. Shude

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    I could measure mine up I suppose, but neither Koolvin or I have stock door mirrors so it's kinda pointless <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>

    Anyone with a stock w202 care to get the tape measure out?
     
  3. V12

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    exactly 68inches...

    Which is about 1700mm, but i dont know exact conversion...

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    Measuring Units Conversion Tables
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    68.000 inch [in] &nbsp;equivalent to: &nbsp;1727.2000 millimetre [mm]
     
  5. Dave B

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    W202 - dimensions according to Haynes.....

                   Length: 4487mm
                    Width: 1720mm
              Wheelbase: 2690mm

         Height (unladen)
      Classic/Elegance: 1424mm
            Esprit/Sport: 1395mm

    I knew that book would come in handy someday !!  <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>
     
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    Aquila

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    Thanks for the replies; appreciated.

    The measurements suggest a width for the C180 in the range of 1720-1730mm, which is V12's 68 inches, Guy's conversion of 1727mm - though I've come across one measurement at 5'9&quot; which would be 1752mm.

    As far as I can tell with a tape measure my C180 is 1990mm wide - perhaps I'm out by a few millimeters, but not by 270mm. I bought my car on Tuesday, and its definitely a C180 (it looks like one and the registration document says it is&#33<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'> So why is it 270mm wider than it should be? The wing mirrors look original, and are not enormous.

    Any bright ideas?

    Or maybe I just get my garage door replaced and get used to getting the car through a gap with next to nothing to spare!
     
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    you havn't got &quot;carlos fandango &quot; wheel arches have you???

    Sory couldn't resist!!!
     
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    These are the figures for the current S class, from MBUK website -

    Length / width / height (mm) 5038/1857/1444

    So at 1990 mm wide, you may have got an S180 with caravan wing mirrors...

    Alternatively, you need a new tape measure!<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':D'>  
     
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    Aquila,

    'tis a shame you don't have the power folding mirror option.

    Looks like the garage door will have wing mirror cut outs to it, cartoon stylie. <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>

    S.
     
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    Aquila

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    Thanks for all the comments.

    The tape measure is right, so it has to be the wing mirrors - not something I would have thought of without the contributions above. I found a C180 in a car park, and the wing mirrors look a lot smaller than those on mine. I'll see the MB garage on Monday and see about getting them changed. That plus a new garage door should do the trick ... I hope!
     
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    no such things as smaller wing mirrors <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=';)'>
     
  12. V12

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    He may have a non-genuine set on his car, i have seen some &quot;towing&quot; aftermarket mirrors for the c-class before, looked like ML mirrors at first glance...

    I think there must be something very wrong with your measuring, are you measuring straight across?? Have you got someone to help you with it?

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    Following posts on this board I've got paranoid about the measurement. I've done it three ways:
    1) straight across - of course the bow of the windscreen does make this a little difficult, but it can still be done.
    2) Plumb line from the tip of each mirror to the ground, mark the points, move the car and measure across.
    3) Run the front of the car into the garage until the mirrors all but touch the posts and mark on the wood of the posts - move car back and measure across.
    I'm getting a few millimeters different by each method, but no more than that. I reckon each wing mirror is 100mm+ bigger than it should be. Incidentally I've got a switch on the centre wood to the rear of the gear leaver which is marked as a wing-mirror adjustment, but does nothing. It would make sense that the mirrors have been changed at some time.
     
  14. Steve_Perry

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    Aquila,

    That would indeed be the logical conclusion. One other way I thought of measuring is to open both side windows and measure through the cabin space. Either way you seem to have non standard mirrors. I'm not sure if you have to have the engine on to be able to adjust mirrors.

    If you look at the gallery at the 'C's there, my W202 has standard stock mirrors. I think GrahamC200 is fitted with standard mirrors too.

    S.
     
  15. V12

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    Measure your current mirrors, then post all dimensions here, we will tell you whether or not they are standard...

    going to measure some now... <img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
     
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    Thanks for all the interest.

    1) A fourth way of measuring the width of the car (through the open windows) gives 198cm.

    2) The wing mirror tip is 228mm from the window - that's on the basis of a right angle line out from the window.

    3) The wing mirror itself is 237 mm from mounting to tip. I've included the black plastic of the mounting.

    4) The actual mirror glass is 166mm long.
     
  17. GrahamC200Sport

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    Wow.

    Lots of confusion!

    Well if it helps, my present and previous garage door width is 2130mm (give or take a few! ) and as far as I know this is a standard size.

    C-Class fits through fine, the gap could indeed be smaller.
     
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    Am getting a new garage door sorted - opening 2110mm. Car will fit through this with a couple of inches to spare either side. A shade tighter than GrahamC200's garage, but should work fine. Thanks for all the posts on this thread. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.mbclub.co.uk/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':)'>
     
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