Hard to watch to the very end.
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The problem with any hard-hitting anti-dangerous-driving campaign... is that they are ineffectual.
We - the older wiser and sane drivers - are moved by these images, but the people who these campaigns are aimed at just don't think this will happen to them... the combination of Testosterone and Adrenalin makes them feel Omnipotent - add alcohol of other drugs to the equation and they feel invincible.
And when young people do think about risk, they think about dying... they don't about killing someone else, about spending 5 years in prison for it, about the children of the people they might kill, about them or their victim spending their lives as quadriplegic in a wheelchair, or about their parents.... they just don't.
The above is what makes young single men good soldiers... the inherent inability to fully understand the risks they are taking. Mature family men will take risks, but they will have a better understanding of what they are getting into, the possible consequences, and the reward.
We - the older wiser and sane drivers - are moved by these images, but the people who these campaigns are aimed at just don't think this will happen to them... the combination of Testosterone and Adrenalin makes them feel Omnipotent - add alcohol of other drugs to the equation and they feel invincible.
And when young people do think about risk, they think about dying... they don't about killing someone else, about spending 5 years in prison for it, about the children of the people they might kill, about them or their victim spending their lives as quadriplegic in a wheelchair, or about their parents.... they just don't.
The above is what makes young single men good soldiers... the inherent inability to fully understand the risks they are taking. Mature family men will take risks, but they will have a better understanding of what they are getting into, the possible consequences, and the reward.
Get a grip!
"Death sentence" and "put to death" is hardly the same as killing yourself through some wilfully stupid action.
Away and play on a railway line...
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I was a 19yr old passenger in a Ford Cortina GT1500 and the driver was a good friend.(He is still alive)
There is a road I live quite close to with a 30mph limit and on a few occasions (usually after chucking out time at the pub) my mate Rob would attempt to hit 100mph on this approx mile long road. At the time, 3 boozed up teenagers thought this was great fun and never once thought of the implications of crashing or an accident.
We were the lucky ones still being here to tell the tale. I didn't drive personally, but if asked I'm sure I would have done. Teenagers do stupid things usually on impulse. Most mature and grow into responsible people. I'd like to think I have.
Those two lads were foolish in the extreme and have paid dearly. Yes, chav behaviour prior to the crash and certainly an obnoxious couple, but nobody deserves to die like that. The parents must be heartbroken and deserve praise for allowing the video to be aired. If it saves one life and all that........
There is a road I live quite close to with a 30mph limit and on a few occasions (usually after chucking out time at the pub) my mate Rob would attempt to hit 100mph on this approx mile long road. At the time, 3 boozed up teenagers thought this was great fun and never once thought of the implications of crashing or an accident.
We were the lucky ones still being here to tell the tale. I didn't drive personally, but if asked I'm sure I would have done. Teenagers do stupid things usually on impulse. Most mature and grow into responsible people. I'd like to think I have.
Those two lads were foolish in the extreme and have paid dearly. Yes, chav behaviour prior to the crash and certainly an obnoxious couple, but nobody deserves to die like that. The parents must be heartbroken and deserve praise for allowing the video to be aired. If it saves one life and all that........
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People are saying dying is suitable reward, so what's the difference. And as for your last line, get a life and a personality. Grow up.
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Well as I was posting about death and parenthood. Maybe we could all grow up. Pretty please :ˆ)
Not that they would want to hear it, I certainly would repeat to them what I posted above.
I don't post anything I wouldn't say in person, no matter how sensitive a time this is for them.
However, I doubt the parents would disagree.
If they did, then if they as parents thought their children driving recklessly WHILST under the influence of some heavy drugs, then what chance did their kids have anyway...
If I put myself in that position where I died due to my own stupid actions, then looking through my eyes now back at the posts said about these guys, pretending they were about me, I don't disagree with the majority.
I don't however agree with the notion that they deserved to die because of their actions though.
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This is exactly what I meant.
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Sad video that, yes they behaved like complete tools and sadly paid the ultimate price for it. Sad for their families and tragic for the two individuals involved.
Thankful really that no one else was involved in the incident.
Sadly there is an element of young lads with a total lack of self preservation. I'm glad to say I was never like that but knew plenty of lads who learnt the hard way why you can't drive around like a muppet.
Thankful really that no one else was involved in the incident.
Sadly there is an element of young lads with a total lack of self preservation. I'm glad to say I was never like that but knew plenty of lads who learnt the hard way why you can't drive around like a muppet.
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Those comments are pretty harsh.
They were clearly totally irresponsible, with a complete disregard to the mortal danger they were placing other people in, and with a nasty streak
Thing is, they also had no idea of the danger they were placing themselves in. Unless they had a deathwish, no one would deliberately drive like that if they really understood that they had a very high percentage of ending up dead, which that video clearly shows to anyone that watches it. So it's a total lack of realisation of the potential consequences. It's a mixture of the perceived invincibility of youth, couple with gawd knows what effect the drugs were having, that's a lethal mix, which is as it panned out.
Maybe they were two truly awful guys. Or maybe they just had no idea.
But I think that's still a long way from saying they deserved the outcome, or that they had no potential to be of benefit to society, which is what the two comments above suggest.
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We all did foolish things when we were young. But drugs and alcohol make young people take 'foolish' to a new level...... if we could control that, we could perhaps mitigate or prevent some of the damage caused to the offenders and their environment as result.
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I feel sorry for the woman at the accident scene
holding one of their hands telling them an ambulance is on the way
and to
"hold on".
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holding one of their hands telling them an ambulance is on the way
and to
"hold on".
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Your post wasn't the most insensitive.
I didn't think so but without knowing who you were aiming at, I guessed...
Indeed, very haunting. I hope she isn't affected by events but credit to her for helping.
Losing it at 90 could mean some gruesome findings.
I've seen at least two TV programmes where they covered the fact that you don't have a fully developed sense of fear or something like that until around your late 30s (around 28 I think).
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As someone who lost a 21 year old member of my family in a stupid accident I find some of the comments made on here shocking and frankly totally disgusting.
We all know what they did was stupid and they paid the ultimate price, but their family will have had their lives changed forever, and the ripples that an incident like this will cause for those left will grow and have knock on effects for years.
Drugs make people do things they would never consider when "normal".
Get some manners
We all know what they did was stupid and they paid the ultimate price, but their family will have had their lives changed forever, and the ripples that an incident like this will cause for those left will grow and have knock on effects for years.
Drugs make people do things they would never consider when "normal".
Get some manners
