Help connecting gas bottle to Weber BBQ

[Stratman]

I'd be checking for leaks right now. If there is a leak the gas could be 'pooling' over the floor and down in crevices ready to go boom next time it's used.

 

[GDAWG10]

I'd be checking for leaks right now. If there is a leak the gas could be 'pooling' over the floor and down in crevices ready to go boom next time it's used.

But if the valve is off on the regulator, surely that means that gas can't escape from the bottle?

 

[Stratman]

I'm undoubtedly being over cautious, but where there's a joint there's the possibility of a leak. The bottle to regulator interface and the regulator itself are possible, admittedly remote, sources of leaks. A bit of soapy water will reveal all.

 

[SpikyMikey]

I'm undoubtedly being over cautious, but where there's a joint there's the possibility of a leak. The bottle to regulator interface and the regulator itself are possible, admittedly remote, sources of leaks. A bit of soapy water will reveal all.

No bubbles, no troubles

 

[Meldrew2]

No bubbles, no troubles

I remember my (late) father checking for leaks using his cigarette lighter!

I pointed out (from a distance) that washing up liquid was a safer alternative...

I've still no idea how he lived to 85.

 

[grober]

SHOULD BE AS EASY AS THIS

How to safely connect and disconnect gas bottles

Here is our guide on how to connect and how to disconnect a gas bottles. Find instructions for connecting propane, butane and patio gas bottles safely.

www.calor.co.uk

The gas container connector itself may be dirty //worn- looks as if its from a scrap yard! and end up damaging your new regulator- maybe get your gas from a different source next time?

 

[GDAWG10]

SHOULD BE AS EASY AS THIS

How to safely connect and disconnect gas bottles

Here is our guide on how to connect and how to disconnect a gas bottles. Find instructions for connecting propane, butane and patio gas bottles safely.

www.calor.co.uk

The gas container connector itself may be dirty //worn- looks as if its from a scrap yard! and end up damaging your new regulator- maybe get your gas from a different source next time?

They have a saying in Cyprus "This is Cyprus my friend"

Unfortunately there is no different source, every petrol station and supermarket on the island sells gas in exactly the same way, same supplier, same connector, same orange type of canister. Just one of the many things here that you have to accept.

 

[grober]

PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE SAID RETAILER RATHER THAN SUPPLIER?

 

[GDAWG10]

PERHAPS I SHOULD HAVE SAID RETAILER RATHER THAN SUPPLIER?

Nope, it makes no difference. I know you have good intentions but the gas canister I bought is the same they sell everywhere from one side of the island to the other (120 miles give or take). There's some lovely luxuries here, and the usual, Starbucks, Mcdonalds, Beach bars, sushi restaurants, five star luxury hotels, 3 million euros penthouse apartments, but the island has two sides, the sushi restaurants and five star hotels and marinas and an infrastructure and regulations/mentality that are still stuck in 1980.

 

[SpikyMikey]

Nope, it makes no difference. I know you have good intentions but the gas canister I bought is the same they sell everywhere from one side of the island to the other (120 miles give or take). There's some lovely luxuries here, and the usual, Starbucks, Mcdonalds, Beach bars, sushi restaurants, five star luxury hotels, 3 million euros penthouse apartments, but the island has two sides, the sushi restaurants and five star hotels and marinas and an infrastructure and regulations/mentality that are still stuck in 1980.

Yep, after many years of travelling round the Greek Islands (although we never got to Cyprus), your gas bottle looks like pretty much every single one I've ever seen stacked up at petrol stations (no safety cages here) or in a heap at the back of a local minimarket.
In some ways it's nice to see the old ways haven't changed despite the best intentions of the EU.

 

[grober]

Butane Vs Propane | Pure LPG - Your BBQ came with a propane connector/regulator so its burners maybe optimised for that fuel rather than a propane butane mix who knows

 

[SpikyMikey]

Butane Vs Propane | Pure LPG - Your BBQ came with a propane connector/regulator so its burners maybe optimised for that fuel rather than a propane butane mix who knows

There should be a label on the BBQ somewhere: our Char-Broil (made in Canada) can use either Propane or Butane with the correct bottle & regulator combo.

 

[GDAWG10]

Butane Vs Propane | Pure LPG - Your BBQ came with a propane connector/regulator so its burners maybe optimised for that fuel rather than a propane butane mix who knows

Not sure, I know one retailer in Cyprus sells the Weber grill without a hose and regulator but the big DIY store I bought it from advertised it with hose and regulator but obviously it was the wrong regulator for Cyprus so it was pointless. I can't see anywhere in the manual where it specifies the gas to use other than not for use with natural gas but I'm guessing it should be okay. The bottle just says LPG but doesn't specify what exactly.

 

[GDAWG10]

Does anyone know, am I okay leaving it on the porcelain tiles during winter? It rains a bit here but it won't be sitting in water, rain will hit the tiles and runs off into the drain so will just contact the base and run off. I have a cover for the BBQ which covers the grill and the bottle if I want it to but not sure if I should leave it uncovered for safety reasons especially during summer when there is no rain. In winter I can cover it or buy a separate cover for it. I can also buy a hexagon type concrete wall cap/brick for it to sit on, maybe even tile it was the same tiles I've got but into small mosaics so it matches up with the floor tiles, but that's if I need to keep it off the floor tiles. The 10kg bottles are too big to sit under the grill on the shelf or on the side handle that came with the grill. The orange industrial type of bottle is a bit of an eye sore for an other very nice roof garden.

I'm wondering if I can buy a cover for it from Amazon anyway to use permanently. They have polyester type covers and just leaves the top open and it looks much nicer but Im wondering if it will be a fire hazard likewise if I buy a plant pot type cover like the picture below or maybe I can buy a metal one.

 

[GDAWG10]

Leak test successful. Sprayed on some water and soap, turned valve on and no bubbles. Now covered so I can rest for a couple of days!

 

[flying haggis]

Or you could sit the bottle on the rack on the right hand side between the wheels and hold it in place with a small ratchet strap or a bungee cord...

edit.. you say the bottle is too big to sit on the rack but could you unbolt it move it down and drill some new mounting holes. if it would fit then that is what I would do as it looks like it might go down a few inches

 

[Darrell]

Does anyone know, am I okay leaving it on the porcelain tiles during winter? It rains a bit here but it won't be sitting in water, rain will hit the tiles and runs off into the drain so will just contact the base and run off. I have a cover for the BBQ which covers the grill and the bottle if I want it to but not sure if I should leave it uncovered for safety reasons especially during summer when there is no rain. In winter I can cover it or buy a separate cover for it. I can also buy a hexagon type concrete wall cap/brick for it to sit on, maybe even tile it was the same tiles I've got but into small mosaics so it matches up with the floor tiles, but that's if I need to keep it off the floor tiles. The 10kg bottles are too big to sit under the grill on the shelf or on the side handle that came with the grill. The orange industrial type of bottle is a bit of an eye sore for an other very nice roof garden.

I'm wondering if I can buy a cover for it from Amazon anyway to use permanently. They have polyester type covers and just leaves the top open and it looks much nicer but Im wondering if it will be a fire hazard likewise if I buy a plant pot type cover like the picture below or maybe I can buy a metal one.

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Much too tidy. This is how I store mine.

 

[fourwheels]

I’m a bit confused with all this. Your first message said you had bought a Weber ll 310.
When I google that it shows Weber Spirit II E-310 Gas Grill (Liquid Propane).
Those orange gas canisters are common throughout the Mediterranean.
On my visits there I’ve seen them under sinks, strapped to donkeys, and carted around by the lorry load.
So I have just asked my wife who was born and lived there for many years how she used to refer to them.
Calor was the answer.
I might be 100% wrong but I didn’t think you could mix Propane and Calor because the regulator and the burner jets are dedicated to one or the other.
Good luck though, I know how difficult it is to get reliable information there.

 

[GDAWG10]

I’m a bit confused with all this. Your first message said you had bought a Weber ll 310.
When I google that it shows Weber Spirit II E-310 Gas Grill (Liquid Propane).
Those orange gas canisters are common throughout the Mediterranean.
On my visits there I’ve seen them under sinks, strapped to donkeys, and carted around by the lorry load.
So I have just asked my wife who was born and lived there for many years how she used to refer to them.
Calor was the answer.
I might be 100% wrong but I didn’t think you could mix Propane and Calor because the regulator and the burner jets are dedicated to one or the other.
Good luck though, I know how difficult it is to get reliable information there.

But isn't Calor just a brand, and they sell propane and butane? So it appears your wife is confusing things as well haha. In Cyprus they call telehandlers just plain forklifts and all cereal are "cornflakers" even when it's not.

The orange bottle isn't a mix of Calor, I am sure it's just the brand, but it might be a mix of propane and butane, and I've emailed the company to ask. I have a feeling I read somewhere it's a mixture of 70% butane to 30% propane.

It says in the manual that "this grill has only been safety tested for the country of use, refer to the country listed on the outside of the box" however we often get products here with the wrong EU adapter etc and it also came with the wrong regulator for the only gas bottle they sell here, so I can't be confident. I'll email Weber Cyprus as well just to ask, but they are just a local store using the Weber name to supply parts but they should know something, but what I really need to figure out is, if it is a propane grill to be used solely with 100%/ propane, how does using a mixture of propane/butane affect things, and is it safe. No sure thing as patio gas here but I'd assume if Weber authorise their product to be sold in Cyprus, they would know what the gas is that is used.

 

[GDAWG10]

This was in the online manual from Weber Cyprus but I also received a manual with the box that wasn't in English but this is what it says:

"What Is LP Gas? Liquefied petroleum gas, also called LP, LP gas, liquid propane, or simply propane or butane, is the flammable,petroleum-based product used to fuel your grill. It is a gas at moderate temperatures and pressure when it is not contained. But at moderate pressure inside a container, such as a tank, LP is a liquid. As pressure is released from the tank, the liquid readily vaporizes and becomes gas."