How do you clean moss off!

[pammy]

I think we may have gone off the topic here

Whats this got to do with getting Moss off, does she not like Ikea or fish or have I just missed something?

ooops - quite right

 

[recycled]

How easy it is to go off topic. Anyone reading the last few posts would actually think we were talking about continental food and not kate moss
ooops sorry ,.... moss

 

[television]

How easy it is to go off topic. Anyone reading the last few posts would actually think we were talking about continental food and not kate moss
ooops sorry ,.... moss

back on track

Acetic Acid 30% diluted with 3½ parts with water is cheap and good and safe.

 

[recycled]

back on track

Acetic Acid 30% diluted with 3½ parts with water is cheap and good and safe.

Acetic acid and plastic bags. Television you may get reported to the met by tesco staff

 

[Goldfish11]

Remember to Re-wax and protect afterwards.

Make sure you re-wax paintwork and use some rubber protector on the vinyl and rubber once you have used your acetic acid. This will strip every thing down to the bare paint.

Some companies do Acid Baths for cars, this uses acetic acid to remove contaminents but you do need to completely re-wax and protect afterwards.

 

[Bobby Dazzler]

Make sure you re-wax paintwork and use some rubber protector on the vinyl and rubber once you have used your acetic acid. This will strip every thing down to the bare paint.

Some companies do Acid Baths for cars, this uses acetic acid to remove contaminents but you do need to completely re-wax and protect afterwards.

Good point. Even the Autoglym caravan cleaner I mentioned strips the wax off the paint - so need to give it a quick once over with wax afterwards.

 

[R2e]

Just don't try a rolling stone....................

 

[Merc_Angel]

AutoGlym sell a convertible roof cleaning kit - it is awesome. I did my roof which had signs of moss particularly in the stitching grooves.

After you have cleaned it there is a sealant that you can put on the help protect it from the weather - it also offer rain-guard protection.

Personally, I think all AutoGlym products are excellent quality.

 

[NW_Merc]

Just don't try a rolling stone....................

 

[television]

Make sure you re-wax paintwork and use some rubber protector on the vinyl and rubber once you have used your acetic acid. This will strip every thing down to the bare paint.

Some companies do Acid Baths for cars, this uses acetic acid to remove contaminents but you do need to completely re-wax and protect afterwards.

Please do not say these thing, wine vinegar is 6% proof since when has vinegar ever hurt wax or paint

 

[glojo]

Please do not say these thing, wine vinegar is 6% proof since when has vinegar ever hurt wax or paint

I must confess as a lay person I would side with Goldfish, but am only saying this to get a response to persuade me to alter that opinion.

Washing a car with diluted detergent would in my lay opinion also encourage me to re-wax\polish my car? Bird droppings is another item that I treat in a similar way. Wash off and polish. Not polish the dungy heap.

John the curious

 

[television]

I must confess as a lay person I would side with Goldfish, but am only saying this to get a response to persuade me to alter that opinion.

Washing a car with diluted detergent would in my lay opinion also encourage me to re-wax\polish my car? Bird droppings is another item that I treat in a similar way. Wash off and polish. Not polish the dungy heap.

John the curious

All I can say is that I have used it for 20 years, on many things including the moss that grows on the side rubbers of my mint V70R that has to stand out. I use it in the side lights where it grows inside, I add that I am one of the fussiest people on earth with my cars. this is why vinager is so good on windows, it disolves a natural substence like moss.

I do not know of anyone who has splilt vinager and its damaged anything.
I would never be so reckless on this type of thing. Like all of these things it is the dilution of the original that is important, the max proof that you can buy is 30% and you dialute that by 3½ to 5 parts of water.
I have never heard of anyone comming to harm eating fish and chips with vinagar, no doubt a few that have will come on

 

[rajinder_1]

i usually blast it with a jet wash or the hose, this seems to do the trick....

Raj

 

[glojo]

All I can say is that I have used it for 20 years, on many things including the moss that grows on the side rubbers of my mint V70R that has to stand out.

Hopefully no one would suggest diluted vinegar would cause harm, but I am curios as to whether rubbing this diluted solution onto the polished paintwork, might remove the wax\polish? No way would I suggest it is harmful, or unsuitable.

I love the occasional pickled onion as well as vinegar on my fish and chips

John the curious

 

[television]

Hopefully no one would suggest diluted vinegar would cause harm, but I am curios as to whether rubbing this diluted solution onto the polished paintwork, might remove the wax\polish? No way would I suggest it is harmful, or unsuitable.

I love the occasional pickled onion as well as vinegar on my fish and chips

John the curious

To use the said mixture you do not rub, just brush on leave a few mins and hose off.

Rather than dialute what I have. I went out and tipped some wine vinagar on my V70R washed off later and not one mark.

 

[Goldfish11]

The great vinegar debate

Vinegar will not damage the paint.
Fairy liquid will not damage the paint.
BUT it can create the environment where over time the paint gets damaged by other causes.

The problem is that paint needs a wax or sealant to protect it from UV which can then cause oxidation. Acid rain which is far weaker than vinegar will slowly remove wax and can then make the car prone to oxidation. Fairy liquid removes most waxes and sealant and acid will do the same. We use vinegar extensively around the house for cleaning as it is excellent for glass and bathrooms and at times I use it on the car.

Oxidation can be seen particularly on red cars where the paint looses the shine. Even with clear coats these can oxidise and go murky.

As I mentioned some people will wash a car in acid to remove some contaminents but you do need to re-wax or seal.

So "television" you are correct - Vinegar will not damage your car.
BUT it can create conditions that mean your car can get damaged.

(It is all about the right product for the right environment - I for one would not put Autoglym on my fish and chips as this will damage you! but I have never heard of anyone getting damaged by putting Autoglym on a car but at the same time vinegar on a car is a bit like Autoglym on fish and chips )

I had my car polished by the dealer with show room wax this looks great but offers very little protection. A bird dumped on my bonnet and it blistered the paint in less than a day. The reason was all my sealant had been removed as some bodywork had been done on the vehicle. Their wax had not damaged the car but had created conditions where it could be damaged. I always use a good quality sealant but sometimes put show room wax over this if I want to show off. Now if a bird dumps on the car I am generally safe for a couple of days (not that I leave it that long)

Some high quality sealants or waxes may not be removed by vinegar but for the sake of a couple of minutes re-applying a wax or sealant and using rubber protector or conditioner on the area you have treated with vinegar it will keep your car super shiney and also probably stop moss growing in the first place as the muck it needs to grow on can not stick.

With regards to rubbing - Also it depends what you rub the paint with i.e. the cloth. Rubbing could cause abrassion of the paint but if you used a high quality microfibre or terry towl it probably would do nothing. But if you used a dish cloth it may. I have rubbed my car with vinegar, T Cut, tar remover etc but I try to use an appropriate cloth.

 

[television]

Vinegar will not damage the paint.
Fairy liquid will not damage the paint.
BUT it can create the environment where over time the paint gets damaged by other causes.

The problem is that paint needs a wax or sealant to protect it from UV which can then cause oxidation. Acid rain which is far weaker than vinegar will slowly remove wax and can then make the car prone to oxidation. Fairy liquid removes most waxes and sealant and acid will do the same. We use vinegar extensively around the house for cleaning as it is excellent for glass and bathrooms and at times I use it on the car.

Oxidation can be seen particularly on red cars where the paint looses the shine. Even with clear coats these can oxidise and go murky.

As I mentioned some people will wash a car in acid to remove some contaminents but you do need to re-wax or seal.

So "television" you are correct - Vinegar will not damage your car.
BUT it can create conditions that mean your car can get damaged.

(It is all about the right product for the right environment - I for one would not put Autoglym on my fish and chips as this will damage you! but I have never heard of anyone getting damaged by putting Autoglym on a car but at the same time vinegar on a car is a bit like Autoglym on fish and chips )

I had my car polished by the dealer with show room wax this looks great but offers very little protection. A bird dumped on my bonnet and it blistered the paint in less than a day. The reason was all my sealant had been removed as some bodywork had been done on the vehicle. Their wax had not damaged the car but had created conditions where it could be damaged. I always use a good quality sealant but sometimes put show room wax over this if I want to show off. Now if a bird dumps on the car I am generally safe for a couple of days (not that I leave it that long)

Some high quality sealants or waxes may not be removed by vinegar but for the sake of a couple of minutes re-applying a wax or sealant and using rubber protector or conditioner on the area you have treated with vinegar it will keep your car super shiney and also probably stop moss growing in the first place as the muck it needs to grow on can not stick.

With regards to rubbing - Also it depends what you rub the paint with i.e. the cloth. Rubbing could cause abrassion of the paint but if you used a high quality microfibre or terry towl it probably would do nothing. But if you used a dish cloth it may. I have rubbed my car with vinegar, T Cut, tar remover etc but I try to use an appropriate cloth.

Thanks for your post, this is all a delicate subject as to what solvents harm or disolve what, I have waxed parts of components when electro plating to keep the plating off some of the bits, when you are de greasing the wrong solvent will just make a mud pie. indeed a complicated suject.