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Interesting reading.

I have always been a big fan of Camberley Auto Factors myself. They are local and have always offered excellent service. What can ECP offer me that CAF cannot?

In terms of factors theres several types namly 'national' and 'regional'

CAFs are members of the Parts alliance - a group of smaller factors which are limited to regions - they join together to share their buying power as a group. Although all factors are growing, the fact that you are part of an alliance limits you heavily.

The likes of ECP, GSF and Andrew Page are National - We have no limits, and in terms of those, ECP are one of the fastest growing companies in the last 2 years. In '09 we opened 9 new branches, in '10 we opened 16 and this year so far we have opened 10 bringing our network to 88 branches today :bannana:

In terms of products We stock over 114,000 Parts - The closest equivilent stock circa 45,000 (our largest 'HUB' Branch stock 35,000 parts alone :D )

The fast moving products will almost ALWAYS be kept in atleast 2 different qualities - A cheaper 'aftermarket' version and a premium 'Original Quality' version - For many parts we will stock a third 'Original' product.

Brands - We are the UKs largest distributor for Bosch Automotive products, and main uk supplies for other leading brands such as Lemforder, Hengst and Sachs.
We are the SOLE distributor for Bilstein suspension and Pagid breaking aswell as Apex performance springs, H&R performance suspension and BMC filtration.
We are the UKs largest distributor for EBC performance brakes, K&N Performance filtration and Supersprint performance exhausts.

We Deliver over 33,000 deliveries a day, and have a market leading website, which is improving day after day (thanks to the feedback and support of forums such as yourself!)

We do get a hard time from rumors spread and customers who have had bad experiences, however for every 1 unhappy customer theres 1,000 happy ones - We are still working on getting that to 100% satisfaction, which is why working with forums brings us 'closer to the customer'

And even better.....

MBClub Members get 25% off all Standard Car parts purchased online! :bannana:

*phew*
 
..quick question whats the brand on this part?

478220301
 
Hi mate

Thats replacement quality so it will probably be 'Astrum' or 'Eurolites' - I can pop down to the warehouse and see whats on the shelf if you like?
 
Hi mate

Thats replacement quality so it will probably be 'Astrum' or 'Eurolites' - I can pop down to the warehouse and see whats on the shelf if you like?

cheers mate, no need to pop down just wanted to see what brand they were. :thumb:
 
After market parts quality

Hi Guys

Many of you will know us, probably used us, but now we are here to help the MBClub community with their parts enquries. :bannana:

We stock over 114,000 parts - which is roughly 50% more than the next biggest motor factor - meaning we can offer you better choice, better quality and much better value!

Please feel free to post any enquiries in here - And im sure we can help!

Hello ECP,

Firstly, this is no attempt to shame your operation, my experience is a one-off but I would be most interested in hearing your comments.

My 300CE-24 was occasionally mis-firing and I decided to do distributor rotor and cap when I was in England. I visited MB in Ashford, Kent and received a pretty steep quote for the two parts. I then visited your Ashford branch where I bought Bremi parts for substantially less.

After about 18 months, I had hot-running problems and it stopped. After a couple of hours' cooling it restarted and I got home. I traced the problem to the Bremi rotor arm, replaced it with the original (about 17 years old!) Bosch/MB part and all was well. I subsequently 'bit the bullet' and bought a new MB rotor and cap and all's been well ever since. This experience has caused me to be suspicious of anything but genuine MB replacement parts.

As a company with much experience in supplying lower cost parts, do you have any misgivings about the quality of some parts?

Is it reasonable to assume that all this is a question of "you gets what you pays for" and that lower cost parts are just there to keep the vehicle going on the cheap, with no guarantee of longevity?

Over the years, I've used specialist independents to service and repair my vehicles and, in the main, they've insisted on original parts being used. The reliability has been good. Costs have been high.

Your comments would be gratefully received.

Kind regards.

RayH
 
Hi Ray

'You Get what you pay for' is a strange phrase - most comonly used with electronics, or clothing essentially if you buy a pair of jeans which are cheaply made will wear quicker, but There are 2 ways about sourcing cheaper parts....

At ECP we will normally start by stocking a OEM quality part or range (for arguments sake a VW brake pad) This we'll buy from Lucas germany or from VW Germany (for example)

After a few months/year when we are happy with the product (ie/ it is a fast mover) we will then normally find the factory which supplies Lucas, and go direct. buying bulk volumes, in a 'own brand' - This way being able to hit the low price point (because we buy direct and in large volumes) but retain the quality.

The bad way of doing this, is the latter. Certain companies (both new and experienced) try to go direct, get lost in the minefield which is mass production industry and end up buying a part, or a range of parts, in bulk from a un-proven factory which end up being pants.....

So the truth is, the OE part, or the OEM quality isn't ALWAYS better than a properly sourced and tested product or range. certain people will only buy dealer parts, I personally will only even buy OEM quality parts, and other people just want to buy the cheapest part possible.

The chances of you or I having a dud part, are much lower than somebody who only goes for the cheapest part each time.
 
..go on then Mr. ECP spill the beans.

..whatcha got? its not that silver CL63 AMG parked up with cones around it sometimes is it??!

Er.. or Mr. Singh's Maybach??

;)
 
Do you sell bleed nipples? (No jokes please)

I have bought some C32 AMG brakes originally made by brembo. I need 2 of them

Yeah we stock some general bleed nippels:

100440090 - DANSK (5-211611477A) BLEED NIPPLE - M6X28 MM

£1.32inc VAT each :bannana:

Billyw124 said:
..whatcha got? its not that silver CL63 AMG parked up with cones around it sometimes is it??!

I wish - That car went a while ago - I have a German 3 litre Diesel :D
 
Do you do a front brake pad fitting kit for my W126 300Se with Bendix calipers? It's the bent wire type.

I can't find it on the ECP website - thanks!
 
Do you do a front brake pad fitting kit for my W126 300Se with Bendix calipers? It's the bent wire type.

I can't find it on the ECP website - thanks!

Hi Coalville

Let me know your reg, and i can have a look!
 
It's a 1988 E-reg, 126.024 if that makes any difference..

I've only been able to find the type which I now know is for ATE calipers, a cross shaped metal spring - which is always listed for my car and have bought in error.

I believe the MB p/no is 0004213691 & an alternative listed as 0004213791 - found these on the ru epc website.

Thanks in advance ECP!
 
Hello ECP,

Firstly, this is no attempt to shame your operation, my experience is a one-off but I would be most interested in hearing your comments.

My 300CE-24 was occasionally mis-firing and I decided to do distributor rotor and cap when I was in England. I visited MB in Ashford, Kent and received a pretty steep quote for the two parts. I then visited your Ashford branch where I bought Bremi parts for substantially less.

After about 18 months, I had hot-running problems and it stopped. After a couple of hours' cooling it restarted and I got home. I traced the problem to the Bremi rotor arm, replaced it with the original (about 17 years old!) Bosch/MB part and all was well. I subsequently 'bit the bullet' and bought a new MB rotor and cap and all's been well ever since. This experience has caused me to be suspicious of anything but genuine MB replacement parts.

As a company with much experience in supplying lower cost parts, do you have any misgivings about the quality of some parts?

Is it reasonable to assume that all this is a question of "you gets what you pays for" and that lower cost parts are just there to keep the vehicle going on the cheap, with no guarantee of longevity?

Over the years, I've used specialist independents to service and repair my vehicles and, in the main, they've insisted on original parts being used. The reliability has been good. Costs have been high.

Your comments would be gratefully received.

Kind regards.

RayH

Ray ,

I feel I must comment on this .

With my 300TE ( same components ) , I had a misfire and replaced the cap and rotor arm with parts purchased from ECP , which turned out to be Bremi as well . Less than six months later , I was experiencing misfires , rough running , stalling from idle in 'D' . On inspection of the cap , noticeable burning was evident on each of the electrodes in the cap . I replaced with genuine MB , at a somewhat higher cost , and this set lasted for about five years .
 
Ray ,

I feel I must comment on this .

With my 300TE ( same components ) , I had a misfire and replaced the cap and rotor arm with parts purchased from ECP , which turned out to be Bremi as well . Less than six months later , I was experiencing misfires , rough running , stalling from idle in 'D' . On inspection of the cap , noticeable burning was evident on each of the electrodes in the cap . I replaced with genuine MB , at a somewhat higher cost , and this set lasted for about five years .

Bremi appear to be made in China:

Production – China | Cable assembly, electrical couplings, contact systems, connectors, electromechanic components | era-contact

BREMI| Erstausrüstungslieferant der Automobilindustrie | Original Equipment Manufacturer | proveedor de materiales de la industria automovilística
 
Interesting - I had presumed they were Italian .

Either way , I would only put Bosch on now .
 
Interesting - I had presumed they were Italian .

Either way , I would only put Bosch on now .

Derek

The way the world works almost all large volume parts are made in the Far East - Labour and Materials are much cheaper.

It doesn't make a product better or worse as you get good and poor manufacturers.
 
Interesting - I had presumed they were Italian ..

I think that's the idea, plenty of Chinese parts sold under German sounding names and with german writing on the box.

Either way , I would only put Bosch on now .

OE or genuine OEM is the only safe way to ensure you are getting what you ought to be getting.
 
I think that's the idea, plenty of Chinese parts sold under German sounding names and with german writing on the box.



OE or genuine OEM is the only safe way to ensure you are getting what you ought to be getting.

Good Job EuroCarParts are the UKs Largest Bosch Automotive Distributor :rock:
 

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