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Hybrid company car private miles payback?

SG94

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I'm hoping there is someone on here who has a company hybrid car and has to pay back for private miles.

Just ordered a C300DE. My company policy is to give us fuel cards, but, via the telematics we pay back the cost of private miles thereby avoiding BIK for fuel benefit.

So, with the new hybrid, I will be expected to charge it at home at my own expense (I am field based), but my company will also still reclaim every private mile at the government rate for diesel. Outside holidays I will do very few private journeys that will run outside the expected electric range of the car. But I will be paying twice, I will pay for the electricity and per mile.

My question is, how does your company handle this?
I know the amounts are negligible, but it’s mainly the principle, because you can bet your arrse if I paid for all my fuel and claimed business miles back, they would find a way to ‘deduct’ electric miles.....

Anyone have any idea?
 
I'm hoping there is someone on here who has a company hybrid car and has to pay back for private miles.

Just ordered a C300DE. My company policy is to give us fuel cards, but, via the telematics we pay back the cost of private miles thereby avoiding BIK for fuel benefit.

So, with the new hybrid, I will be expected to charge it at home at my own expense (I am field based), but my company will also still reclaim every private mile at the government rate for diesel. Outside holidays I will do very few private journeys that will run outside the expected electric range of the car. But I will be paying twice, I will pay for the electricity and per mile.

My question is, how does your company handle this?
I know the amounts are negligible, but it’s mainly the principle, because you can bet your arrse if I paid for all my fuel and claimed business miles back, they would find a way to ‘deduct’ electric miles.....

Anyone have any idea?
Can you not buy your own hybrid/electric car and charge .45p per mile used for business?

That way no tax for company car benefit and the electric mileage becomes your profit? Also all the mileage you claim becomes tax deductible by your employer and if you submit your business diesel bills they can also reclaim the VAT so everyone is a winner?

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It's not that simple.

Mileage allowance pays for three elements:

- Fuel

- Other direct costs that are affected by the car's mileage such such as servicing, tyres, brakes, insurance (if capped), and depreciation

- Indirect costs such as VED and MOT (if older than 3 years)

The point is that in order for it to be fair all three need to be paid for. But I can see the issue you are raising, that cost element for fuel is overpriced on the case of a hybrid, plus the cost of the electricity.
 
Yeah, it seems tricky. The company are ‘encouraging’ us to go for greener cars, but in the case of hybrids I don’t think they have thought it through.
Because of our mileage, (30K a year) we cannot opt out of the company car scheme. And TBH, having got very badly burned some years ago with a brand new Ford that cost me nearly 25k over 3 years in engines, injectors, turbos, and clutches, I will never opt out again.

I’m thinking of asking if I can just not have the fuel card and just claim my business miles back. On a monthly basis this will be easy as it’s all done electronically via the telematics, it’s just a PITA having to go back to self assessment to claim the tax relief every year :-/
 
Yeah, it seems tricky. The company are ‘encouraging’ us to go for greener cars, but in the case of hybrids I don’t think they have thought it through.
Because of our mileage, (30K a year) we cannot opt out of the company car scheme. And TBH, having got very badly burned some years ago with a brand new Ford that cost me nearly 25k over 3 years in engines, injectors, turbos, and clutches, I will never opt out again.

I’m thinking of asking if I can just not have the fuel card and just claim my business miles back. On a monthly basis this will be easy as it’s all done electronically via the telematics, it’s just a PITA having to go back to self assessment to claim the tax relief every year :-/
It would be a real pain but as the ‘recharge’ isn’t just the fuel cost I can’t think of any other way - agree a reduction for each personal mile travelled on your electric - say 18p / mile. Then you would have to keep a log at the end of each personal journey as the car says how many miles on ICE and electric. I think the company will be really wary of not recharging enough and going against HMRC rules.
 

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