I was sold my car as an AMG but my friend is saying it is not?

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*Certain* cars are made by Mercedes-AMG GmbH.

(How you call these cars is another matter...)

Mercedes-AMG GmbH is a separate company to Daimler AG.

So the simple question is: which company made your car Mercedes-AMG GmbH, or Daimler AG?

And yes:
(a) Mercedes-AMG GmbH is fully owned by Daimler AG
(b) Mercedes-AMG GmbH get the body shell with basic assemblies from Daimler AG
(c) Mercedes-AMG GmbH uses the Daimler AG distribution channel to sell it's cars

But the fact remains that your car was officially made by one company or the other...
I guess that is a little bit like Rolls Royce and Bentley before the buy outs. Bentley owners considered them superior to Rolls Royce because they came from a separate division/factory, were sportier, produced in less numbers and therefore deemed a little more exclusive (even though at the time it was all owned and controlled by the parent Rolls Royce).

Whereas Rolls Royce owners considered their cars superior as they were made by the parent company who were prepared to put their badge on the car and by the fact that in the main they were more expensive.

I never could work out which had the correct view then realised beauty is in the eye of the owner [emoji57]



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*Certain* cars are made by Mercedes-AMG GmbH.

(How you call these cars is another matter...)

Mercedes-AMG GmbH is a separate company to Daimler AG.

So the simple question is: which company made your car Mercedes-AMG GmbH, or Daimler AG?

And yes:
(a) Mercedes-AMG GmbH is fully owned by Daimler AG
(b) Mercedes-AMG GmbH get the body shell with basic assemblies from Daimler AG
(c) Mercedes-AMG GmbH uses the Daimler AG distribution channel to sell it's cars

But the fact remains that your car was officially made by one company or the other...
Although I believe that the “most AMG” I can think of - the SLS AMG - was actually built by Magna Steyr :dk:
 
MB don’t badge them as AMG from factory though as far as I am aware?

No. AMG Line doesn't have an AMG badge from the factory - mainly because they aren't the same thing.

I see plenty added on after - "S350d AMG" and the like...

BMW might add hundreds of M badges on everything around their cars but a genuine M has M# on the back depending on which model it is (except for the 1M but that's because they couldn't name it M1).
 
What about the AMG performance and noise :p
Well yea they dont have that but tbh in an urban environment you dont really get a chance to use them parts
 
It’s basically very simple.

Go to the MB website and click AMG. The cars you see are lo and behold AMGs. So if you have a 220d with an AMG badge it ain’t one.
The majority of us know this already....
 
MB don’t badge them as AMG from factory though as far as I am aware?

I wouldn't be so sure. My old 2001 W163 ML500 came out of the factory with Option U49 - Styling Package (M Class); it has AMG wheels and body kit, white dials, and what I think is a factory AMG badge on the tailgate.

Probably by hand of a previous owner, the last digit of 'ML500' on the tailgate is missing; yes folks, it's that little-known variant, the ML50 AMG...
 
I wouldn't be so sure. My old 2001 W163 ML500 came out of the factory with Option U49 - Styling Package (M Class); it has AMG wheels and body kit, white dials, and what I think is a factory AMG badge on the tailgate.

Probably by hand of a previous owner, the last digit of 'ML500' on the tailgate is missing; yes folks, it's that little-known variant, the ML50 AMG...
Yes there was an AMG styling kit for the W163 ML but they didn’t leave the factory with an AMG badge.
 
Yes there was an AMG styling kit for the W163 ML but they didn’t leave the factory with an AMG badge.

Are you certain? They had the white AMG-badged dials, not just the bodykit, and I've seen a couple of others with the AMG kit for sale, and they both had the AMG badge on the tailgate as well. I've looked closely at the actual badge, and it's a dead ringer for the one on my 2005 SLK, which is an AMG.
 
Are you certain? They had the white AMG-badged dials, not just the bodykit, and I've seen a couple of others with the AMG kit for sale, and they both had the AMG badge on the tailgate as well. I've looked closely at the actual badge, and it's a dead ringer for the one on my 2005 SLK, which is an AMG.
When I was shopping for one in 2002/3 they didn’t have an AMG badge either when new, and the used examples available at the time didn’t have them either. I ended up buying one without the AMG kit, as my insurer considered it to be a modification.
 
That's good enough for me; no AMG badge as standard. Probably the same Herbert who fitted illuminated AMG sill trims in the front door openings, securing them with mastic because the bozo didn't know how to remove the originals and broke them, fitted the AMG badge and removed the third digit of the 500.
 
Oh the desperation of the wannabe!
They probably also own fake Rolex's and knockoff designer gear!
 
Oh the desperation of the wannabe!
They probably also own fake Rolex's and knockoff designer gear!
No, no, no. Those fake Rolex watches aren’t fake, they’re just hot. Shhhh, don’t tell anyone, and to make sure you don’t let out the secret then I’ll let you have one for £200.
 
I guess that is a little bit like Rolls Royce and Bentley before the buy outs. Bentley owners considered them superior to Rolls Royce because they came from a separate division/factory, were sportier, produced in less numbers and therefore deemed a little more exclusive (even though at the time it was all owned and controlled by the parent Rolls Royce).

Whereas Rolls Royce owners considered their cars superior as they were made by the parent company who were prepared to put their badge on the car and by the fact that in the main they were more expensive.

I never could work out which had the correct view then realised beauty is in the eye of the owner [emoji57]

I've always perceived Rolls Royce as one up from Bentley but I'm not exactly sure why as I've never owned either.

I guess when I was young it was Rollers that were pointed out... not sure Bentleys were.
 
I've always perceived Rolls Royce as one up from Bentley but I'm not exactly sure why as I've never owned either.

I guess when I was young it was Rollers that were pointed out... not sure Bentleys were.

It's the other way around (the one up bit) for precisely that reason. Rollers were driven by Pools winners, football managers & pornographers. Bentleys were driven by old money seeking a lower profile.
 
And they referred to them as such, too; no gentleman would ever call a Rolls-Royce a Roller...
My observation is that Gentlemen no longer actually drive (or get driven in) Rolls-Royce cars... not the old-money type, anyway.

It's usually chaps of foreign persuasion, or the 'self-made' local types, behind the wheel these days.

No offence meant to any Rolls-Royce-driving members...
 
Agree that the image of a Rolls driver isnt what it used to be. They're a bit too showy off for my taste but each to their own.
 
And they referred to them as such, too; no gentleman would ever call a Rolls-Royce a Roller...
Oddly enough they would ask Jeeves to fetch the rolls, although it would depend on the time of day and their appetite;-).

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