I wish I'd had a camera running..

[Dieselman]

This morning driving to work I was traveling along a dual carriageway ring road at 70mph, passing a slower car and a had VW Golf in front.
In my mirror I see a motorbike coming down the inside lane at speed, but it's clear I am going to be level with the car as it catches up to me.

The Golf in front is already indicating it's intention to move into the left lane as he is gaining on us and proceeds to start moving over.

What does the biker do.?

Keep in the left lane and slow down behind the slower car or pull out and wait behind me.?

Nope..he passes between us at about 85mph.... (see, He knows the + 20mph rule.. ) and nearly rear ends the Golf..hitting the brakes to shed speed to avoid it..
He then passes round it and squeezes between a Transit and a car and continues down the line into the 50mph limit at the same speed, still 'filtering'.

He passes through a multi lane section where cars cross across three lanes and down to a roundabout, where he goes through the light that turned red a second or so before....

Who's fault would MCN have reported this as if he had hit the Golf..??

At least it confirms one thing....There isn't a God...

 

[rf065]

At least it confirms one thing....There isn't a God...

Maybe it was God?

Russ

 

[219]

Although the majority of bikers drive responsibly because they are well aware of their own vulnerability and mortality , there are idiots like the one mentioned above who tarnish the reputation of the well-behaved majority .

I regularly see one such idiot on my morning commute who blasts down the single carriageway A737 at circa 100mph , wearing leather jacket , jeans and trainers , between opposing vehicles with inches to spare , often in breach of double line systems and overtaking on the approach to blind summits or around blind bends . One of these days I fully expect to see his luck run out .

 

[stevesey]

Maybe it was God?

Unlikely, I thought God preferred a car (Genesis 3:24 - God drove), David on the other hand was a biker

 

[nicko]

Although the majority of bikers drive responsibly because they are well aware of their own vulnerability and mortality , there are idiots like the one mentioned above who tarnish the reputation of the well-behaved majority .

I regularly see one such idiot on my morning commute who blasts down the single carriageway A737 at circa 100mph , wearing leather jacket , jeans and trainers , between opposing vehicles with inches to spare , often in breach of double line systems and overtaking on the approach to blind summits or around blind bends . One of these days I fully expect to see his luck run out .

Same can be said of some of the suit and tie wearing idiots (no trainers) driving cars

 

[219]

Same can be said of some of the suit and tie wearing idiots (no trainers) driving cars

Indeed !

 

[Frank O' Phile]

Unlikely, I thought God preferred a car (Genesis 3:24 - God drove), David on the other hand was a biker

So was Moses, "the roar of Moses' Triumph is heard in all the hills."

 

[stevesey]

So was Moses, "the roar of Moses' Triumph is heard in all the hills."

But and the Apostles drove a Honda.

 

[Meldrew2]

But and the Apostles drove a Honda.

I thought overcrowding a motor vehicle was illegal.......

 

[Stratman]

At least it confirms one thing....There isn't a God...

I bet that's not what the biker's thinking

 

[x332race]

"Think Bike"......

I hate that advert....ok, so I can see it's point but when most bikers seem to be driving like in the OP or way over the speed limit with little or no regard for their own safety, why should it be the poor car drivers responsibility to look out for them??

(sorry to tar all bike riders in this way, I'm sure that there must be some safe bikers out there!)

 

[Howard]

Let me know when you see one

 

[flango]

I must say that as an ex biker (yes she made me sell it) a lot of bikers don't help themselves on the approach to junctions with cars ready to exit, I see far too many ride so close to the gutter where they are partly obsured by street furniture etc. Position on approach is critical, in the centre of your own carriageway with headlight on, then you are easily spotted, even in black leathers.

I also believe that the car driver does have a duty of care for bikers and should Think once, Think twice, Think bike after all they are surround by a nice steel safety cage (well in some cases anyway). The aftermath of bike versus car is not nice and prevention is always better than cure.

As regards safety, Guess I must have been llucky I fell off only once at about 3 mph on a Sunday morning in front of a wedding party at our local church major

 

[Doodle]

Who's fault would MCN have reported this as if he had hit the Golf..??

Would it matter? The only useful purpose MCN has had for a good while is to catch and mop up spillage when doing an oil change. Amazing absorbency seeing as it's already full of sh*t

 

[x332race]

I must say that as an ex biker (yes she made me sell it) a lot of bikers don't help themselves on the approach to junctions with cars ready to exit, I see far too many ride so close to the gutter where they are partly obsured by street furniture etc. Position on approach is critical, in the centre of your own carriageway with headlight on, then you are easily spotted, even in black leathers.

I also believe that the car driver does have a duty of care for bikers and should Think once, Think twice, Think bike after all they are surround by a nice steel safety cage (well in some cases anyway). The aftermath of bike versus car is not nice and prevention is always better than cure.

All road users have a duty of care to all other road users...it just irks me that bikes are singled out for special attention when a large majority of bikes are being ridden in a fast and dangerous manner. Why should we have to worry about their safety when they plainly do not care.

 

[st13phil]

Why should we have to worry about their safety when they plainly do not care.

Personally, as a generalism (because that's what we're talking about here), it's the urban warrior cyclists that I find to be least concerned for their own safety. That doesn't absolve me from the need to ensure I do my best not to drive into them when I'm driving a car though, not least because they are likely to come off very badly from any collision with a tin box.

And yes, some of the antics of a minority of motorcyclists scare the cr*p out of me when I see what they get up to, but junction collisions caused by the bike "disappearing" behind the A-post when the car driver takes a quick look and then pulls out are extremely common, and that's all that the "Think Bike!" campaign is about.

 

[rf065]

but junction collisions caused by the bike "disappearing" behind the A-post when the car driver takes a quick look and then pulls out are extremely common, and that's all that the "Think Bike!" campaign is about.

A-pillars are big enough on some modern cars that they can obscure another car let alone a bike. All the more reason to look twice.

Russ

 

[Dieselman]

A-pillars are big enough on some modern cars that they can obscure another car let alone a bike. All the more reason to look twice.

Or just drive out and hope those pillars are as strong as they look..

 

[st13phil]

Or just drive out and hope those pillars are as strong as they look..

Perversely it's the Euro crash performance rating program that has been behind the drive for stronger, and hence thicker, A-posts and that's what's caused the visibility issue. ISTR that Volvo(?) showed a safety concept car last year with see-through A-posts to overcome the problem.

 

[prprandall51]

Whilst wide A-pillars are certainly a problem, it is the pile of junk that idiots insist on sticking in the middle of their screens that annoys me. Sat-navs, mobile phones and even notpad holders. It should be an endorsable offence to obscure the view through the screen.